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Beemnseven 06-05-2011, 12:42 PM Legalize 'em -- all of them. It'll never happen, of course.
The War on Drugs is government's permission slip to snoop on our finances, to stop us if we're carrying too much cash, seize that cash, to burst through our front door in the middle of the night, to shoot our dog, to search our cars, ... on and on ...
It's also been very effective at chipping away at that pesky 4th amendment. Plus it ensures that cash continues to flow to the police departments, gives lots of government tax-feeders with plenty to do (not to mention the police union reps employed). It gives a reason for SWAT teams to exist -- making sure that after-market paramilitary equipment doesn't go to waste. The asset forfeiture laws give police departments all sorts of cool toys to play with, without even needing a guilty verdict preceding the forfeiture of the toys... It keeps the prison popluation up, keeps prison guards employed...
In other words, this endless, highly expensive "War" is just another way to keep the serfs in line, and provides the justification for tax dollars to continue to be sucked up by government.
It's a HUGE racket, and politicians aren't about to give that up.
Dogtag 06-05-2011, 02:45 PM The headline sounded misleading to me ... I just didn't trust what it was saying. So I looked up who these WORLD LEADERS were. Former politicians from Columbia, Mexico & Brazil.
Kinda sounds like the world leaders of DRUNKS AGAINST MAD MOTHERS saying that efforts against drunk driving are wrong.
NC_Skins 06-05-2011, 07:11 PM Legalize 'em -- all of them. It'll never happen, of course.
I think marijuana should be legalized, not any hardcore drugs. I do however think we should decriminalize possession of hardcore drugs (anything other than selling).
The War on Drugs is government's permission slip to snoop on our finances, to stop us if we're carrying too much cash, seize that cash, to burst through our front door in the middle of the night, to shoot our dog, to search our cars, ... on and on ...
You are a bit off on this. Actually, the war on drugs is a effort on the behalf of lobbyist from the Tobacco, Alcohol, and other pharmaceutical industry. Know who the Partnership for a Drug-Free America is? Up until 1997, they were receiving millions of dollars from the alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceutical companies. Now, they only take checks from the pharmaceutical companies...lol OOOOoohh...the irony.
Pot Boiler (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1390)
For a group fighting drug abuse, the Partnership has taken cash from some odd parties—including American Brands (Jim Beam whiskey), Philip Morris (Marlboro and Virginia Slims cigarettes, Miller beer), Anheuser Busch (Budweiser, Michelob, Busch beer), R.J. Reynolds (Camel, Salem, Winston cigarettes), as well as pharmaceutical firms Bristol Meyers-Squibb, Merck & Company and Proctor & Gamble (Marin Institute Backgrounder, 2/97).
The Partnership recently announced it will quit its alcohol and tobacco habit but will continue to mainline pharmaceutical checks (Village Voice, 3/12/97). And its silence continues on America’s deadliest drug problems: tobacco (400,000 annual deaths), alcohol (100,000, including 20,000 from drunken driving), and pharmaceuticals (6,000 to 9,000).
It's always been about money and greed and keeping their foothold in the market of consumers. It's never been about stopping drugs or helping the people.
It's also been very effective at chipping away at that pesky 4th amendment.
The War on Terrorism has eroded more civil liberties than anything. LOL PATRIOT ACT.
It's a HUGE racket, and politicians aren't about to give that up.
It is a huge racket, and politicians are going to keep taking those lobbyist checks to keep that policy intact.
Beemnseven 06-05-2011, 07:44 PM You are a bit off on this. Actually, the war on drugs is a effort on the behalf of lobbyist from the Tobacco, Alcohol, and other pharmaceutical industry. Know who the Partnership for a Drug-Free America is? Up until 1997, they were receiving millions of dollars from the alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceutical companies. Now, they only take checks from the pharmaceutical companies...lol OOOOoohh...the irony.
My point wasn't off at all. You're correct, as far as big pharma goes. They like the War on Drugs too, but it doesn't negate my point. They like it because it stifles competition from other mind-altering substances, but government likes it even better because it's a great tool for keeping their eyes on our business and their boots on our throats.
mlmdub130 06-05-2011, 09:54 PM The headline sounded misleading to me ... I just didn't trust what it was saying. So I looked up who these WORLD LEADERS were. Former politicians from Columbia, Mexico & Brazil.
Kinda sounds like the world leaders of DRUNKS AGAINST MAD MOTHERS saying that efforts against drunk driving are wrong.
your statement doesn't really make any sense and you obviously didn't take much time to look it up. this is one of the first links after you google war on drugs failed. and fyi paul volcker was chair of the fed reserve under carter and regan and was an economic advisor to obama, schltz was sec of state under regan, if you actually cared.
The 19-member commission includes former presidents of Mexico, Brazil and Colombia, Greece's prime minister, former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, former U.S. officials George P. Schultz and Paul Volcker form, the writers Carlos Fuentes and Mario Vargas Llosa, and British billionaire Richard Branson.
Read more on myFOXdfw.com: Panel: War on Drugs Failed, Regulate Marijuana (http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/national/060211-panel%3A-war-on-drugs-failed,-regulate-marijuana#ixzz1OSLyBmdE)
firstdown 06-05-2011, 10:24 PM I think the war on drugs is a big wast of money and not even sure why we spend so much money and effort on the war against drugs. With that said I have no problem if the make some lagal but don't then turn arround and ask me to pay for peoples addiction to drugs.
mlmdub130 06-05-2011, 10:38 PM LOL. Are you serious? Have you been to Iraq or do you know anybody that lives there? So you are taking their GDP and assuming they are living the good life. I imagine most Iraqis would tell you to go to hell. You want to know about that GDP? It's the oil my man. The whole reason we were there. The country is still in turmoil and you now have civil wars between the sunni and shiite. I can see Iraq has turned into a regular Dubai. *rolls eyes*
Man. I'm ready to pack up and roll to Iraq so I can live the good life!! Hear, listen from the good people of Iraq if you don't believe me.
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You really are delusional if you believe the Iraqi people are better off.
just out of curiosity have you ever been to iraq? i hate to go of subject but felt i should say something. i was in iraq i was there for almost a year, and i can tell you from my experience in country that they are much better off now than they were before we got there.
you can take a video of some people pissed that we are there but what does that prove? i bet i could walk down my street and find enough people to make a pretty shitty video of people who hate obama, the other half would hate bush. but you know what, i could make that video and do whatever i wanted with it because thats the beauty of a free country. sure it's shitty over in iraq right now, but at least they are in the process of building a free democracy.
i'm not saying i agree or disagree in any way with what all took place but to say they are not better off than they were before walking around in fear i don't understand. yes the country is still in turmoil but they are making progress as a country and are far better off.
i don't follow politics and never have claimed to, i can't run off stats and tell you how much was spent and what effect this war has had on our economic system. but what i can speak on is my experience in country and all the iraqi people i met that thanked me and were very apperciative of the us forces and everything we have done for them.
skinsfaninok 06-05-2011, 11:19 PM I get high on Pu$*y but eventually weed will be legalized IMO.
I think the war on drugs is a big wast of money and not even sure why we spend so much money and effort on the war against drugs. With that said I have no problem if the make some lagal but don't then turn arround and ask me to pay for peoples addiction to drugs.
You already are
Daseal 06-06-2011, 08:19 AM I think the war on drugs is a big wast of money and not even sure why we spend so much money and effort on the war against drugs. With that said I have no problem if the make some lagal but don't then turn arround and ask me to pay for peoples addiction to drugs.
FD -- you already are with your tax dollars. All of those people we put in prison for small offenses costs lots and lots of tax dollars.
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