Moss WANTS to be a Redskin

Moss brings it every night. He is a selfless player in an age of selfish players. Hail Santana!

My main concern is putting one or two of the three receivers we picked in the draft on our practice squad and loosing them before getting an idea of what we might have.

I would keep him if the lockout drags on too long, which it probably will. And as long as its not too much money and any more than like a 2-3 year deal.

I say bring him back. He was content playing in the slot last year so that works with the young guys coming up. He's not a Top Tier #1 but the guy is F'n solid !

My main concern is putting one or two of the three receivers we picked in the draft and loosing them off our practie squad before getting an idea of what we might have.

I think the roster for wide receivers probably will be Santana Moss, Armstrong, Hankerson, Niles Paul, Terrence Austin and Aldrick Robinson.

Roydell Williams is gone. I really think that, unless Malcolm Kelly has a phenomenal offseason, he'll be gone too, possibly even if he stays healthy. Mike likes his receivers to be able to play special teams as well, and Kelly's proven to fragile to do that. And with Niles Paul and Aldrick Robinson being able to return kicks, Banks is at a disadvantage unless he proves he can make a big time impact as a receiver.

It's more nerve racking to me that Armstrong could end up being our only "veteran" receiver. That's putting a lot of pressure on all the rookies to step up and play right away, and they'll be under an intense microscope. Shanahan likes his players to be versatile, which is why guys like Niles Paul and Aldrick have a pretty solid chance of making the team, where as some of the other guys have less of a chance.

Yes someone actually wants to be a Skin.

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I'd welcome Santana back with open arms.

Can't wait to see him burn Rogers ring-of-horror style.

LOVE Santana....we need him.

Cheap contract for one year, or no cigar for Moss. Better to let them go one year too soon than one year too late.

Also, LOL at the "Niles Paula" typo in the article.

I think the roster for wide receivers probably will be Santana Moss, Armstrong, Hankerson, Niles Paul, Terrence Austin and Aldrick Robinson.

Roydell Williams is gone. I really think that, unless Malcolm Kelly has a phenomenal offseason, he'll be gone too, possibly even if he stays healthy. Mike likes his receivers to be able to play special teams as well, and Kelly's proven to fragile to do that. And with Niles Paul and Aldrick Robinson being able to return kicks, Banks is at a disadvantage unless he proves he can make a big time impact as a receiver.

It's more nerve racking to me that Armstrong could end up being our only "veteran" receiver. That's putting a lot of pressure on all the rookies to step up and play right away, and they'll be under an intense microscope. Shanahan likes his players to be versatile, which is why guys like Niles Paul and Aldrick have a pretty solid chance of making the team, where as some of the other guys have less of a chance.

What about Banks though? We'll already be pushing the roster limit with 6, and it seems that sixth spot is reserved for Banks. Kelly I personally don't want but everything we've heard has said that the job could be his to loose if he's healthy, which in Kelly's case is a big if.

Either way from from what I've seen Armstrong already has that box out, jump ball thing down, and Hankerson is also suppose to provide that possession presence so why people are so high on Kelly is beyond me but the coaching staff seems to like him.

Also, tidbit thats gone overlooked is Armstrong's reaction to us drafting 3 receivers.
"When they drafted three I was like, 'What the hell?'?" said Armstrong, who caught 44 passes and averaged 19.8 yards a catch in his first season. "I was mad. I was like, 'Shoot, what are you trying to say?' Why did you draft three? Don't you have faith in me?"


But in the end that veteran factor is going to be amplified this offseason when it comes to assigning a value to players so regardless of what I think the likely outcome is Moss will stay. Personally the only thing that scares me about Moss is he reminds me of a basketball player that gets 20 PPG but has a terrible FG%.

In the case of Moss we have an 1,100 yard receiver with a 12 ypc average. Though by the same token Moss is a hard worker thats not yelling at people to get him the ball.

Anyway welcome to the forum NLC, or should I say Clu? lol.

Moss seems like a guy who can remain quietly effective (at a sub-800 yard level) right into his mid thirties. I just don't think it makes a lick of sense to bring him back here.

Like I said many times this, if we can't develop three other guys who are as effective or are more effective than Santana Moss, we're going to be in trouble anyway. If it gets worse without him for a year, I think that's a small price to pay. But others see this a lot differently than I do.

He's one of the better FAs available though, perhaps top after Malcom Floyd (ignoring the players with five or fewer years of service time).

I would just ask the people who see Moss as our slot receiver of the future to consider just how much would have to go wrong for us to not be able to replace Moss' production out of the slot. Kelly would have to get hurt again, and even then, Niles Paul or Aldrick Robinson profiles really well in that role. Armstrong could even move into the slot in third down situations. Brandon Banks is probably a downgrade in the slot over anyone, but again, at the point where Banks is seeing significant snaps out of the slot, so much has already gone wrong that having Moss would hardly have made a difference.

Replacing the slot receiver in pro football is even easier than replacing the kicker. Everyone on your roster at the WR or TE position (and even some RBs) can play the slot.

Where did this notion that Santana only plays in the slot (or only plays well in the slot) come from?

Kyle lined him up everywhere last season. In the slot, outside, split end, flanker. They moved Santana around a lot.

You look at Andre Johnson, and he never just lines up in one place. None of the wide receivers in this offense do or did either (except maybe Roydell, but he sucks). You don't get 93 receptions only playing in the slot. Moss plays all over the place, which I think what makes him invaluable.

It's not that I think the rookies can't come in and have success. I think Terrence Austin could be a good slot receiver. But it's all about versatility with Mike Shanahan. He wants his guys to be able to play multiple positions and multiple places.

That's one of the things that propelled Armstrong over Devin Thomas last year; Armstrong could really play everywhere you wanted to, and Devin...well...Devin was Devin.

And Dirtbag (hey, it's that guy from YouTube, lol), I like Banks, but again; it's the versatility. If the kick off rules really are as big an issue as it seems that might be, that limits his effectiveness. Banks has to prove that he can be a potential every down player. He's a tough guy, he's willing to go over the middle, he's got blazing speed (still can't believe McNabb OVERTHREW HIM in the Indy game), but he has to have a major development at the wide receiver position to stay on the team.

He's really at a disadvantage because both Niles Paul and Aldrick Robinson can return kicks, play wide receiver, and play special teams. And his durability (while I think it's a bit overblown) is still a concern.