If Pryor entered the supplemental draft would you pick him.

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NYCskinfan82
05-31-2011, 08:30 PM
This has been talked about on ESPN that he might have to bail out of Ohio. I'd offer a 4th round pick, he would be a nice 3yr project IMO. Could we put up a Yes, NO, Maybe Vote. Higher ups please help me out.

Dirtbag59
05-31-2011, 08:34 PM
I'm going to sound like I'm being cool but yes, I would place a late round bid for him. He has all the physical tools (Size, mobility, arm strength). He also put up great numbers in a pro style offense (27 TD's, 11 Int's 65%) which to me carry more weight then the type of season Newton had in a Spread offense. On top of that there won't be a fuss if he doesn't win the starting job right away, like there would be with any free agent we might bring in (Bulger, Young, Smith, etc).

The reason for the late round bid is due to the fact that while I like him, he wouldn't necessarily be my first choice for next year as he only has one full year of being accurate, and he does have character issues. Also part of me thinks he has a slow release but I might have to go back and check on that, usually strong armed QB's have slow releases and my memory of Pryor says he's one of those types of QB's.

wilsowilso
05-31-2011, 08:53 PM
I assume that he will garner a third round bid.

Not a terrible price to take a gamble because of his position.

If you're Vinny Cerrato.

A player that lives like the rules don't apply to him and to top it off he is inconsistent on the field.

Buyer beware.

That being said he really does have tools and talent.

Dirtbag59
05-31-2011, 08:59 PM
First time I heard of him it was 3 or 4 years ago with Wilbon rightfully pointing out that his "where I'm going to college" press conference was ridiculous. Since then I've been skeptical of him from a character standpoint, and up until recently from a production standpoint. Tatoo's in many cases are stupid and even dumber due to the fact that it virtually ruined a national title team, however if thats all the punishment outweighs the crime.

Anyway no doubting the fact that the man has talent. It's just that with these supplemental drafts theres usually only one player. Jarmon was good but how would he have really faired in a draft where he was compared to 15-20 other defensvie ends in an April draft? In summoning my inner Collin Cowherd it's like one decent/average looking girl in a room with 32 guys or vice versa. Thats what the supplemental draft is to me.

You never know how you really feel about the player because that player is usually the only available option at that point in time.

BuckSkin
05-31-2011, 09:16 PM
I defended Pryor when the "Tattoo Five" story first broke. Saying "what's wrong with selling your own property?". Now I know.... It cost a great coach his job, integrity and legacy. I don't lay all of this at Pryors feet, there's plenty of blame to go around. That being said...Dirt pointed out his attributes better than I can. A huge piece of humble pie could have brought him back to Earth. Shanahan has already tried and failed on a Buckeye castoff, I doubt he rolls the dice again.

skinsfaninok
05-31-2011, 09:23 PM
Nope

NC_Skins
05-31-2011, 09:31 PM
So you'd give up a probable starter (4th: Roy Helu (RB) Nebraska) for a QB who'll never be a successful QB in the NFL? Vinny? Is that you?




When will you people get it out of your heads. The following QBs do not translate well to the NFL.

Tyrelle Pryor
Pat White
Antwaan Randle El
Marcus Vick
Tyrod Taylor
Eric Crouch
Armanti Edwards
Cam Newton
Scott Frost


Two that are still debatable...Vince Young and Mike Vick too. Beyond this past year, Vick hasn't done diddly squat as a QB. I'll need to see some consecutive years of serious production at the QB stats (not running) to change my mind.


Sure these guys were awesome QBs and played well at their level, but this isn't college.

BuckSkin
05-31-2011, 09:33 PM
Duplicate post

Dirtbag59
05-31-2011, 09:37 PM
So you'd give up a probable starter (4th: Roy Helu (RB) Nebraska) for a QB who'll never be a successful QB in the NFL? Vinny? Is that you?




When will you people get it out of your heads. The following QBs do not translate well to the NFL.

Tyrelle Pryor
Pat White
Antwaan Randle El
Marcus Vick
Tyrod Taylor
Eric Crouch
Armanti Edwards
Cam Newton
Scott Frost


Two that are still debatable...Vince Young and Mike Vick too. Beyond this past year, Vick hasn't done diddly squat as a QB. I'll need to see some consecutive years of serious production at the QB stats (not running) to change my mind.


Sure these guys were awesome QBs and played well at their level, but this isn't college.

Yes but unlike a lot of the QB's you listed Pryor has been successful in a pro style offense. Also Cam Newton and Tyrod Taylor haven't even taken a snap in the NFL.

NYCskinfan82
05-31-2011, 09:38 PM
Higher ups thankyou.

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