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freddyg12 06-01-2011, 12:52 PM I think in terms of value, look at the recent draft. Wrap your brain around christian ponder middle first round, and the what 4th, 5th QB taken at that point? Think of that talent pool of QBs and how high they went.
Now think if you could land Terrel Pryor with a 4th round value, getting him in a year early to sit and learn. Maybe even a 3rd.
Im much much comfortable using a 4th on TP than say a Ponder, Gabbert, Cam, Locker in the 1st round. Risk. From a value standpoint TP in the 4th or 3rd much better value. I wouldnt be upset with a gamble from that standpoint.
good point. 4th round would be a good value. If he becomes the starter at some point it's a steal, if not it's not too much to lose. 3rd round might be too high for us to bid, but I think Shanny would gamble a 3rd if he likes his potential. Mike Shanahan is risk taker & like you said, this is so much less risk than drafting a qb in 1st or 2nd round.
mooby 06-01-2011, 03:12 PM For once I think I semi-agree with NC_Skins on a point. The kid is a punk, from every account I've read (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6611808), the one that stands out to me the most is this (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=6611869). Now obviously people can chalk that up to the kid being immature, or w/e reason, and basically say that won't stop him from being a successful qb in the NFL, but how many "bad apples" come out of college football and are able to turn their lives around in the NFL? More often than not you hear about them living the same way they always have, which is basically them coming across as acting like they are above the law. I don't deny that the kid has talent, but talent isn't worth anything if a persons' character prevents that talent from ever fully realizing it on the field. I wouldn't take him, just because it sounds like he hasn't learned anything from the NCAA/OS investigation into his cars. Shanny is a risk taker though, and the risk is minimal if we use a 4th or a 5th round pick on him, so we might end up seeing him in a 'Skins uniform if Shanny determines his talent overrides his character concerns.
GMScud 06-01-2011, 03:49 PM In addition to the free tatoos, the big issue around Pryor are all the automobiles he's been driving since being at OSU (allegedly as many as 8 different cars in 3 years).
So yesterday there was a players only meeting for the Buckeyes and what does Pryor show up in? A 350Z with temporary tags. He just doesn't get it. I don't want any part of that dude. Oh yeah, he also has a a suspended license until August 18th of this year.
Scrutiny in Columbus Over a Nissan 350Z Driven by Terrelle Pryor - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303745304576357720386497658.html)
I really don't know much about the guy but just based on what some of you are saying I would definitely pass. He sounds like a headache waiting to happen.
Dirtbag59 06-01-2011, 07:39 PM http://media.cleveland.com/osu_impact/photo/pryorsackdcjpg-cbeccf785d9f7249_large.jpg
Ohio State's Terrelle Pryor (2) can't escape the pressure and is sacked by Purdue's Ryan Kerrigan (94), Mike Neal (92), and Keyon Brown (95) during the fourth quarter of Saturday's 24-16 Boilermakers victory in West Lafayette, Ind.
Dirtbag59 06-01-2011, 07:40 PM Anyway on this issue I think we need to ask Vinny what he would do and then do the opposite.
NYCskinfan82 06-01-2011, 08:17 PM Mike Adams in the Supplemental Draft ?? - Hogs Haven (http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/5/31/2199643/mike-adams-in-the-supplemental-draft#storyjump)
Saw & read this thought I might add it to the conversation.
skinsfan69 06-01-2011, 08:21 PM The report has been he's used over 8 different cars since his time at Ohio State. It's quite obvious from the investigative report from SI that this dealership is loaning him cars to use. He sure as hell didn't pay for it. (or any of the other 7 cars) If he was selling gear and other stuff, what makes you think he wasn't taking cars from dealerships? Come on man....lol People are in so denial about things.
I can see taking some cash or some small handouts. But if was driving 7 cars from a dealership then it might be time for Pryor to move on. It will all come out.
skinsfan69 06-01-2011, 08:23 PM I think in terms of value, look at the recent draft. Wrap your brain around christian ponder middle first round, and the what 4th, 5th QB taken at that point? Think of that talent pool of QBs and how high they went.
Now think if you could land Terrel Pryor with a 4th round value, getting him in a year early to sit and learn. Maybe even a 3rd.
Im much much comfortable using a 4th on TP than say a Ponder, Gabbert, Cam, Locker in the 1st round. Risk. From a value standpoint TP in the 4th or 3rd much better value. I wouldnt be upset with a gamble from that standpoint.
I think the reason Ponder shot up draft boards was in part cause of his off season. He got a chance to meet with coaches, he played well in the Senior Bowl and had a good combine. Not the case with Pryor. But all it takes is one team to like the guy.
Dirtbag59 06-01-2011, 08:32 PM Mike Adams in the Supplemental Draft ?? - Hogs Haven (http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/5/31/2199643/mike-adams-in-the-supplemental-draft#storyjump)
Saw & read this thought I might add it to the conversation.
No thanks we already have access to Jammal Brown and will also likely have a chance to sign Clabo, Harris, or Trueblood if that doesn't work out.
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