Redskins coaches support owners in lockout

I understand Shanny's reaction in this because he's part of management. However, having all of the Redskins coaching staff sign this was stupid. Very stupid. Now, the NFLCA should have contacted the Redskins which was very stupid of them. Now the Redskins coaching staff has chosen a side and it happens to be against the guys they want trust from. NOT a smart move.

That's a good point. So assuming all preexisting conditions, what should have happened? MS releases his own statement without other coaches? That looks like a segmented coaching staff.

That's a good point. So assuming all preexisting conditions, what should have happened? MS releases his own statement without other coaches? That looks like a segmented coaching staff.

No, it looks like one is considered management (much like Bruce Allen) and the others are coaches. Its a bit complicated when the coach is also the president as well. I think in this situation, Shanny makes a statement independently while reminding people that he is also management. That way it clears up any question about "split" coaching staff. That is how I feel it should have been handled. I have a big problem with the coaching staff siding with owners against the players. They have absolutely no dog in the fight so there is absolutely no reason for them to be dragged into this.

No, it looks like one is considered management (much like Bruce Allen) and the others are coaches. Its a bit complicated when the coach is also the president as well. I think in this situation, Shanny makes a statement independently while reminding people that he is also management. That way it clears up any question about "split" coaching staff. That is how I feel it should have been handled. I have a big problem with the coaching staff siding with owners against the players. They have absolutely no dog in the fight so there is absolutely no reason for them to be dragged into this.

I think making his statement alone shows lack of unity.

I think making his statement alone shows lack of unity.

Mike Shanahan is clearly management. You can tell because he he has the title of Vice President and the big corner office. He makes the big bucks and he also makes all of the football-related decisions for the organization.

On the other hand, the assistant coaches have none of those things. That's because they are not management. They are also not players. They are simply football coaches. So, there was no need for them to show solidarity with either management or the players.

They should not have been put on the spot by the coaches association and they should not have been asked by anyone to sign a statement supporting management.

So easy so say but hard to walk the walk when your paycheck goes towards loans, mortgages, family, etc.

If you felt you could lose your job, you wouldn't agree with your employer? There are different ways to go about making your opinion heard. Putting your job on the line doesn't have to go hand in hand with that.

Nobody in this NFL labor fight is going to lose their job. This is a battle between rich people and super rich people.

But if we are talking about sacrificing our jobs in the fight to face off against uncontrolled corporate greed it's obvious that the super rich are in a great position right now as you point out middle class Americans find themselves so leveraged by mortgages, debts and twenty three monthly bills every month that it seems impossible to even consider putting up a fight when it comes to labor disputes?

It's a joke. American laborers died in the streets so that they could earn a chance at a living wage.

Now that the middle class has gotten so drunk off of a steady diet of fast food, mindless television and a garage filled with toys we can't afford we are incapable of staring down management and the super rich?

The distribution of wealth is at a staggeringly unhealthy level and yet we elect politicians who fight tooth and nail to give tax breaks to corporations and the super rich?

Maybe Americans can start voting for politicians who are interested in helping people.

To answer your question I would put my job on the line.

But as you said I would obviously do my best to use every other avenue to get my opinion heard.....only because I have a family I'm responsible for, I've got lots of bills and I don't make that much money.

They should not have been put on the spot by the coaches association and they should not have been asked by anyone to sign a statement supporting management.

I agree with that.

Nobody in this NFL labor fight is going to lose their job. This is a battle between rich people and super rich people.

But if we are talking about sacrificing our jobs in the fight to face off against uncontrolled corporate greed it's obvious that the super rich are in a great position right now as you point out middle class Americans find themselves so leveraged by mortgages, debts and twenty three monthly bills every month that it seems impossible to even consider putting up a fight when it comes to labor disputes?

It's a joke. American laborers died in the streets so that they could earn a chance at a living wage.

Now that the middle class has gotten so drunk off of a steady diet of fast food, mindless television and a garage filled with toys we can't afford we are incapable of staring down management and the super rich?

The distribution of wealth is at a staggeringly unhealthy level and yet we elect politicians who fight tooth and nail to give tax breaks to corporations and the super rich?

Maybe Americans can start voting for politicians who are interested in helping people.

To answer your question I would put my job on the line.

But as you said I would obviously do my best to use every other avenue to get my opinion heard.....only because I have a family I'm responsible for, I've got lots of bills and I don't make that much money.

Can't say I disagree with what you've said. The rising tide has not lifted all boats equally. Plenty of numbers to back that up.

For the record I support the players and actually wouldn't be terribly upset if we didn't have football next year to reach a deal on their terms. A win for them would be great for labor across the board.

I'm just saying its tough to throw it all out the window to support a cause for ideals and principles if there is a lot on the line. Easier to say you would.

Cowboys, Rams come out against Coaches Association brief too | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/01/cowboys-rams-come-out-against-coaches-association-brief-too/)

Add the Jaguars

Jaguars coaches distance themselves from NFLCA filing - NFL - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/06/01/jags.ap/)

So five teams now? Funny, because I thought it was just Snyder bullying the coaching staff of the Redskins.

6. Texans too. What kind of joke is the NFLCA considering they didn't seem to consult too many coaches?