Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition

I saw more bad offensive line play in those videos than I did bad QB play.

I saw more bad offensive line play in those videos than I did bad QB play.

Thing is when you throw 44 times your going to have breakdowns in protection. It's much easier as a defensive lineman to not worry about defending the run (or as we called it in High School, "the fun"). Thats also part of the reason we had so many sacks as Kyle loved to/had to throw the ball around. If the Skins want to improve this year they absolutely have to improve the red zone offense.

Any QB will put up yards in this offense, both McNabb and Grossman proved that, what we need to find out is how to make those yards turn into Touchdowns.

Of course I don't know how much Kyle is to blame, the defense was plenty bad this year and from what I can tell Kyle didn't usually become pass happy until the second half, mainly because we were giving up so many points. I think he had a similar situation in Houston with their struggling Defense.

Ironically picking Kerrigan and Jenkins might have improved our O-Line as an improved defense means more flexibility in second half playcalling (ie not abandoning the run because you're down by 2 or 3 scores).

I still maintain that the O-Line could use an upgrade but I seriously don't believe they deserve anywhere near the amount of blame they got this past year.

Here look at this as I channel my inner G-Tripp:

2009: 20th in Pass Attempts with 533. 46 Sacks (Tied 4th Worse)

2010: 4th in Pass Attempts with 605. 46 sacks (5th Worse)

Believe it or not the O-Line is improving.

Then again there is a sobering stat.

Houston 2009: 4th in Pass Attempts with 593, 25 Sacks (5th Best)

Nevertheless it's still progress :D

I saw more bad offensive line play in those videos than I did bad QB play.

Then why did the team not draft to improve the OL? You would think the FO believes that overhauling the WR corps is gonna automatically make this offense better.

Thing is when you throw 44 times your going to have breakdowns in protection. It's much easier as a defensive lineman to not worry about defending the run (or as we called it in High School, "the fun"). Thats also part of the reason we had so many sacks as Kyle loved to/had to throw the ball around. If the Skins want to improve this year they absolutely have to improve the red zone offense.

Any QB will put up yards in this offense, both McNabb and Grossman proved that, what we need to find out is how to make those yards turn into Touchdowns.

Of course I don't know how much Kyle is to blame, the defense was plenty bad this year and from what I can tell Kyle didn't usually become pass happy until the second half, mainly because we were giving up so many points. I think he had a similar situation in Houston with their struggling Defense.

Ironically picking Kerrigan and Jenkins might have improved our O-Line as an improved defense means more flexibility in second half playcalling (ie not abandoning the run because you're down by 2 or 3 scores).

I still maintain that the O-Line could use an upgrade but I seriously don't believe they deserve anywhere near the amount of blame they got this past year.

Here look at this as I channel my inner G-Tripp:

2009: 20th in Pass Attempts with 533. 46 Sacks (Tied 4th Worse)

2010: 4th in Pass Attempts with 605. 46 sacks (5th Worse)

Believe it or not the O-Line is improving.

Then again there is a sobering stat.

Houston 2009: 4th in Pass Attempts with 593, 25 Sacks (5th Best)

Nevertheless it's still progress :D

This makes so much sense. I just hope you're right. The lockout isn't helping though.

I'm pretty convinced our long-term solution at QB (if we ever get one) isn't currently on our roster and won't be at any point in the 2011 season. So why not bring in VY? He's young, he's shown pro-bowl caliber flashes at times, and he'd come on the cheap.

At the end of the day, I think Beck, Young, and Grossman will never be more than average NFL starters.

I wish we had used one of those mid-late round picks on a guy like Ricky Stanzi. I'd rather have him on the roster as a 5th round pick than a Dejon Gomes.


I really wish they had drafted a QB for the future, start Grossman to begin the year and then by week 3 or 4 promote the rookie.

I was surprised at small amount of games Grossman has started in his career. Other than 2006 when he started 16 games, his next highest number is 8 games in 2007.

Year Starts
2003 3
2004 3
2005 2
2006 16
2007 8
2008 4
2009 1
2010 4

In 2006 where Grossman started 16 games he threw 20 interceptions. Last season Grossman threw 4 interceptions in just 4 games. Not good. This is a concern because Grossman has started 41 games and has already thrown 40 interceptions. He is a stop gap guy and that is all. I would rather play a young guy and let him learn then waste our time with Grossman who is never going to be elte.

I think we must give Mike Shanahan a chance to work with the likes of Vince Young if he indeed comes here. I feel that Mike Shanahan the disciplinarian has had its ups (the changing of the culture with the team) and downs (Haynesworth and McNabb benching). But I think it could work if VY comes with the sense that this is a second chance and he has the opportunity to be a starter.

People always see the Patriots as the model organization (and they are right). One thing about that organization is that they have the leadership to take any slight problem player (see Randy Moss) and make them work out. We're not always going to get saints and model players in our team, but the team needs to develop a locker/coaching leadership that is able to handle these players and get them in line.

I think we must give Mike Shanahan a chance to work with the likes of Vince Young if he indeed comes here. I feel that Mike Shanahan the disciplinarian has had its ups (the changing of the culture with the team) and downs (Haynesworth and McNabb benching). But I think it could work if VY comes with the sense that this is a second chance and he has the opportunity to be a starter.

People always see the Patriots as the model organization (and they are right). One thing about that organization is that they have the leadership to take any slight problem player (see Randy Moss) and make them work out. We're not always going to get saints and model players in our team, but the team needs to develop a locker/coaching leadership that is able to handle these players and get them in line.

You've got to be kidding me. The guy is not a leader of men. He's never going to be a top NFL QB where he can lead a team to a Super Bowl. He's simply not mentally tough enough to be a 16 game starter. I'm fine with him as a back up but nothing more.

I can't see many coaches putting up with Vince Young's attitude, especially Shanahan. We need to get away from player distractions.

You've got to be kidding me. The guy is not a leader of men. He's never going to be a top NFL QB where he can lead a team to a Super Bowl. He's simply not mentally tough enough to be a 16 game starter. I'm fine with him as a back up but nothing more.

So you have no confidence in Shanahan working with a guy like VY?