busted trade

Well, there's an update now on PFT

Dan Snyder says Steelers planned to move up to 16 | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/16/dan-snyder-says-steelers-planned-to-move-up-to-16/)

UPDATE: Redskins P.R. exec Tony Wyllie tells PFT that Snyder appeared on no SiriusXM radio show over the weekend, and that Snyder has not done any interviews since Super Bowl week. King’s premise was clear; “Washington owner Dan Snyder said on Sirius Radio over the weekend that the ‘Skins and Steelers had a deal in place for Washington to trade the 16th overall pick to Pittsburgh for the 31st pick plus other choices.” King tells us that he was relying on Jim Wexell of Steel City Insider’s report to that effect. Said Wexell in a May 14 tweet, “Dan Snyder said on Sirius Radio this week that the Redskins and Steelers had a draft day deal in place, but ‘the player was gone’ at pick 16.”

Gotta wonder where Wexell got his info

whoops!

King has also corrected it in his MMQB.

Wexell must have heard something from somewhere, I'd imagine. Curious how he's kept quiet

PFT has stepped up their game quite a bit.

PFT and King arent worth a sh*t. Who cares

And bin Laden had a porn stash.....who gives a....

When I first read this thread title, before I opened it, I thought two teams got busted for secretively working out a trade while this owner imposed lockout was in place.

When I first read this thread title, before I opened it, I thought two teams got busted for secretively working out a trade while this owner imposed lockout was in place.

That would be a lot more exciting...I'll start working on the rumor

I disagree simply because I can't think of a single 3-4 NFL team with two impact edge rushers. I'm just not convinced Kerrigans impact would be all that different from Ayers (and I liked the fact that Ayers played LB in college).

Also I do not think we would have done all those trade downs after. I would have loved to have Marvin Austin (even though I doubt we would have drafted him anyways).

edit: sorry just remembered the steelers. but still don't think kerrigan is TOO far off from ayers. and I hated how we manipulated the board. We got poor deals in trading down and trading up.

40 times may not matter much in the grand scheme of things, but Ayers' 4.88 is low enough to cause plenty of concern. Kerrigan can hopefully be a much superior version of A. Spencer at least.

Oh, and the moved Timmons to ILB even though he came out as a...guess what, DEFENSIVE END.

Dan Snyder says Steelers planned to move up to 16 | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/16/dan-snyder-says-steelers-planned-to-move-up-to-16/)

Akeem ayers and a late 2nd/3rd (adds up perfectly according to draft chart) for kerrigan? anyday. woulda been sweet.

Ayers over Kerrigan? That's like trading a hemi for a simple 6 cylinder. I actually watched film on Ayers the other day and didn't come away nearly as impressed as I did with Kerrigan. Seriously Kerrigan is a Pro Bowl caliber player. The fact that we have him lining up opposite Orakpo is almost as impressive as Suh and Fairly and the fact of the matter is Suh will carry most of the weight in that relationship. Kerrigan and Orakpo could very much be equals.

Kerrigan/Orakpo has the potential to be our Osi/Strahan or even an Osi/Tuck. I'm hesitant to make that trade even if it nets us Rodney Hudson.

Also look out for the Redskins pass rush if they add Franklin and Jenkins. BEAST [/thread]

Ayers over Kerrigan? That's like trading a hemi for a simple 6 cylinder. I actually watched film on Ayers the other day and didn't come away nearly as impressed as I did with Kerrigan. Seriously Kerrigan is a Pro Bowl caliber player. The fact that we have him lining up opposite Orakpo is almost as impressive as Suh and Fairly and the fact of the matter is Suh will carry most of the weight in that relationship. Kerrigan and Orakpo could very much be equals.

Kerrigan/Orakpo has the potential to be our Osi/Strahan or even an Osi/Tuck. I'm hesitant to make that trade even if it nets us Rodney Hudson.

Also look out for the Redskins pass rush if they add Franklin and Jenkins. BEAST [/thread]

I agree. Ayers seemed a little light in the physical run stopping department. Kerrigan is a beast. Anyone that does not see it after watching Kerrigan film does not understand football.

I agree. Ayers seemed a little light in the physical run stopping department. Kerrigan is a beast. Anyone that does not see it after watching Kerrigan film does not understand football.

Let me clarify my statements . I would prefer ayers/2nd/3rd to kerrigan not because kerrigan isnt better than ayers. It is clear that he is. But at the same time I do not believe their impact on the field to be all that different for OUR team. My reasoning for this has to do with my own personal philosophies about the 3-4 defense, which I'm sure I will get alot of backlash for expressing.

1. I like one OLB to be a more natural linebacker (how I view harrison/matthews) and one player to be a more natural DE (how I view woodley/ware/hali), I feel the complement each other well. We cannot have two OLB pass rush on every play, so kerrigan/orakpos potential will not be realized. I am worried that it will end up like a Ware/Spencer combo, which I do not like.

2. I think that for our OLBs to be able to effectively do their job, we first need a better DL. I am a big believer in the DE's wrecking enough havoc to free up the OLBs. I think kerrigan's pass rushing talents will not be maximized until we improve our front.

3. I just want to emphasize that I DO want kerrigan over ayers on our team, I just think that the difference between their two impacts on the field given the situation of our team is worth having the late 2nd and late 3rd. Our draft could have had 3 2nd round picks, a first, and a third. That would be sick. After Jarvis Jenkins, we could have had Stephen Paea, Rodney Hudson, Marvin Austin, Daquan Bowers, Torrey smith, Mikel Leshoure and Ben Ijalana are some options we could have taken. And we could have gotten Randall Cobb/ someone else or still have done that miami trade and get hankerson, then Helu at the end of the third without having to give up all those picks.