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firstdown 05-13-2011, 02:41 PM I think the real question is how did we get there?
I know its because of Bush. Obama's failures are all because of Bush. Obama does no wrong because of Bush. Bush made him do it. The buck stops with Bush. Lets beat around the Bush. Bush made me do it. Funny when it was killing Osama it was Obama only but everything bad that happens is because of Bush.
Chico23231 05-13-2011, 03:47 PM Bottom line is Obama is getting my vote unless the Repubs can put someone fresh up with some good ideas.
Newt is a big fat effing loser, Mitt Romney ehhh fox hates him cause of health care so he wont garner any support, Ron Paul the isolationist, Pawlenty is plain garbage and not strong enough, Huckebee F*ckabee, so far the field is extremely weak. Palin and Trump just make me giggle. Not looking too good.
12thMan 05-13-2011, 04:15 PM I know its because of Bush. Obama's failures are all because of Bush. Obama does no wrong because of Bush. Bush made him do it. The buck stops with Bush. Lets beat around the Bush. Bush made me do it. Funny when it was killing Osama it was Obama only but everything bad that happens is because of Bush.
I didn't say it was because of Bush. Bush actually contributed to the current economic recovery by getting TARP passed. As much as Tea Party types and so called fiscal conservatives bitch and moan about the deficit, had it not been for TARP we're facing one helluva unemployment picture and tons of banks would be out of business. Not to mention GM bouncing back and about to reclaim their spot as number auto maker. So I think TARP was a policy success.
See, I gave your boy some props.
Chico23231 05-13-2011, 04:42 PM I know its because of Bush. Obama's failures are all because of Bush. Obama does no wrong because of Bush. Bush made him do it. The buck stops with Bush. Lets beat around the Bush. Bush made me do it. Funny when it was killing Osama it was Obama only but everything bad that happens is because of Bush.
ya know its kinda funny cause i saw alot of old Bush cabinet people and advisors out heavily touting Bush policy this past week. Ole Ms Rice and All time liar Karl Rove even said Bush was the reason Osama was killed. Man, thats rich coming from a White House who spent most there time fighting an unjust war in Iraq and the other half other time making excusing of why were in Iraq. Wow I laughed my ass off thinking how poorly the Bush adminstration failed at killing Bin Laden.
SmootSmack 05-13-2011, 05:22 PM That's not exactly what Rice said, but whatever run with it if you please
Slingin Sammy 33 05-13-2011, 05:39 PM ....thats rich coming from a White House who spent most there time fighting an unjust war in Iraq and the other half other time making excusing of why were in Iraq.... But it's OK to assasinate Bin Laden (which I have absolutely no problem with BTW).....pot say hello to kettle. Give the whole "Bush is the Devil" thing a rest
Alvin Walton 05-13-2011, 06:19 PM Bottom line is Obama is getting my vote unless the Repubs can put someone fresh up with some good ideas.
Newt is a big fat effing loser, Mitt Romney ehhh fox hates him cause of health care so he wont garner any support, Ron Paul the isolationist, Pawlenty is plain garbage and not strong enough, Huckebee F*ckabee, so far the field is extremely weak. Palin and Trump just make me giggle. Not looking too good.
So you're a sheep to the media?
tsk tsk
Beemnseven 05-13-2011, 06:24 PM I think the real question is how did we get there?
By straying from the constitutionally restricted powers and responsibilities of the United States Federal Government? Which is precisely what Paul is calling for a to return to?
Beemnseven 05-13-2011, 06:28 PM Ron Paul is a good guy, but he just doesn't have broad appeal. And for good reasons. The thing that makes him appealing to many, his Libertarian platform, would be a major weakness when it comes to foreign policy, education reform, and the role of the Fed. His solution to nearly everything is to drastically reduce the role of or completely dismantle government. That's just not practical. If Ron Paul were president, we don't ever catch bin Laden.
A lot of his rhetoric sounds good to the average voter, but when you boil it down to actual policy and how it affects our everyday lives, some of his positions are really kind of dangerous, in my opinion.
If the government had stuck to the vision and principles of Ron Paul throughout the 20th century, and not covertly overthrown democratically elected governments, propped up and armed horrific maniacal dictators, imposed sanctions which led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Arabs, immersed itself in Mesopotamian border disputes, and started wars against nations that never attacked us -- bin Laden would never have had any reason to attack us in the first place.
mlmpetert 05-13-2011, 07:20 PM If the government had stuck to the vision and principles of Ron Paul throughout the 20th century, and not covertly overthrown democratically elected governments, propped up and armed horrific maniacal dictators, imposed sanctions which led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Arabs, immersed itself in Mesopotamian border disputes, and started wars against nations that never attacked us -- bin Laden would never have had any reason to attack us in the first place.
Wooo, woo, woo. Thats un-American talk right there! We are America! We can do what we want without consequence! A-M-E-R-I-C-A!!!!!! 'Merica!
Paul: Have you ever read the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we’ve been over there; we’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years. We’ve been in the Middle East….I’m suggesting that we listen to the people who attacked us and the reason they did it, and they are delighted that we’re over there.
Giuliani: May I comment on that? That’s really an extraordinary statement. That’s an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the attack of September 11, that we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq. I don’t think I’ve heard that before, and I’ve heard some pretty absurd explanations for September 11th. (Applause, cheers.) And I would ask the Congressman to withdraw that comment and tell us that he didn’t really mean that. (Applause.)
Paul refused saying, in part: “If we think that we can do what we want around the world and not incite hatred, then we have a problem. They don’t come here to attack us because we’re rich and we’re free. They come and they attack us because we’re over there.”
Ron Paul Tells The Truth About Attacks By Terrorists; Giuliani Exposed As Clueless, Unfit To Be President (http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=842)
I think this was the exact moment that i realized Giuliani was a idiot last election......
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