rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Here are some statistics to add to this.

Drafted #1 Superbowl Winners

1970 (Steelers) -- Terry Bradshaw, Louisiana Tech
1983 (Colts) -- John Elway, Stanford *
1989 (Cowboys) -- Troy Aikman, UCLA
1993 (Patriots) -- Drew Bledsoe, Washington State **
1999 (Colts) -- Peyton Manning, Tennessee
2004 (Chargers) -- Eli Manning, Mississippi *

*Drafted #1 and then traded.
** Lost starting job due to injury.

what was it you said about history supporting you skinster???

Let's just tank 5 seasons in a row and build up a hell of a roster with all the top picks we'll have! Watch out NFL in about 10 years!

No one is saying that we should suck for that long. But playing all young guys and sucking for a year with a chance to land Luck isn't going to hurt. We've won how many games the last two years playing older guys??? The Rams getting Bradford just gave their pathetic franchise hope for the next 12 years.

Isn't it a little early to claim that Luck will go #1? He could have a horrible season, he could get injured, he could pull a "Locker." it might turn out his success came from having Harbaugh as his head coach, anything could happen. We do need a qb but its obvious from previous SB winners it doesn't have to be a can't miss prospect.

Nope, Skinster said he goes 1, so number 1 it is. You need to remember he cares smarter that everybody.

No one is saying that we should suck for that long. But playing all young guys and sucking for a year with a chance to land Luck isn't going to hurt. We've won how many games the last two years playing older guys??? The Rams getting Bradford just gave their pathetic franchise hope for the next 12 years.

There's a big difference between playing your young team and suffering for a year should they not perform well and outright rooting for the team to suck so you can get the #1 overall pick. We're not going to field a team of rookies this year, you still need to get a few veteran FAs to plug some holes in the team.

There's a big difference between playing your young team and suffering for a year should they not perform well and outright rooting for the team to suck so you can get the #1 overall pick. We're not going to field a team of rookies this year, you still need to get a few veteran FAs to plug some holes in the team.

I really don't care how many games we win next year cause this is not a playoff team. It's a REBUILDING JOB! What's the difference between 4-6 wins? Nothing. I'd rather just win 2 and better the draft position. I want a lot of young guys out there, not London Fletcher, Santana Moss, Casey Rabach and Jamal Brown.

I really don't care how many games we win next year cause this is not a playoff team. It's a REBUILDING JOB! What's the difference between 4-6 wins? Nothing. I'd rather just win 2 and better the draft position. I want a lot of young guys out there, not London Fletcher, Santana Moss, Casey Rabach and Jamal Brown.

Well, here's a question for you, assuming the schedule is played as written:
are you rooting for the Skins to win week 1, to beat the Giants, OR are you rooting for the Giants, so that we keep our shot at getting Luck alive.

Anyone who could conceivably root for the Giants is not a smarter fan that i am. Sorry, that just ain't.

I really don't care how many games we win next year cause this is not a playoff team. It's a REBUILDING JOB! What's the difference between 4-6 wins? Nothing. I'd rather just win 2 and better the draft position. I want a lot of young guys out there, not London Fletcher, Santana Moss, Casey Rabach and Jamal Brown.

Orakpo might create a couple of wins. To realize your dream, we'll have to cut him.

TWilliams might create a couple of wins. To realize your dream, we'll have to cut him.

Cutting Rak and Trent sure sounds smart to me. :(

Well, here's a question for you, assuming the schedule is played as written:
are you rooting for the Skins to win week 1, to beat the Giants, OR are you rooting for the Giants, so that we keep our shot at getting Luck alive.

Anyone who could conceivably root for the Giants is not a smarter fan that i am. Sorry, that just ain't.

well as always i will root for washington. but i've grown real tired of this team not having a plan. right now it's starting to look like we have one. but that plan may take a few years and i'm ok with that as long as they stay committed to it. that may mean a few tough years. no more quick fix mgt. style.

well as always i will root for washington. but i've grown real tired of this team not having a plan. right now it's starting to look like we have one. but that plan may take a few years and i'm ok with that as long as they stay committed to it. that may mean a few tough years. no more quick fix mgt. style.

Right, and I think most of us agree, but skinster was saying he wants us to go 0fer, or maybe win 1, simply to get Andrew Luck. That is his plan. And truthfully that might have been Cerrato's plan with Zorn, and JZ screwed it up by winning 8 games his first year.

No fan of a team wants their team to draft number 1 the following year, before one game has been played in the season. It just can't be. Especially when you just brought in 12 potential solid rookies that we want to see add quality, not learn that losing is acceptable if "your guy" is high on the draft boards...

well as always i will root for washington. but i've grown real tired of this team not having a plan. right now it's starting to look like we have one. but that plan may take a few years and i'm ok with that as long as they stay committed to it. that may mean a few tough years. no more quick fix mgt. style.

than what are we really discussing? I don't think anyone doubts that. I think what people doubt is what skinster is saying. Basically abandon all plans, and just suck for the sole purpose of drafting Andrew Luck. Our team has gotten much younger and is already in a rebuilding process, what needs to happen now is for them to understand that winning is the ultimate goal, that competing is the name of the game, and that no matter what you never stop working. What kind of message would it send if our goal was to suck so we can draft luck.

I really think some people are mixing up 'work now, be better later' with 'suck now, be better later'.