Dirtbag59
05-12-2011, 08:19 AM
In the draft, where did all the OL go?
Looking back at the draft I find myself wondering if we should have taken Stehpen Wisenski over Jarvis Jenkins. However doing so would violate my priorities for building a team (1. QB 2. DL 3. OL 4. RB 5. LB 6. DB. 7. WR/TE).
Round 3 we really did need a receiver and Hankerson was clearly a steal so I have no problem with not drafting an OL. Clint Boling was the only good lineman available, and certainly would have been a nice find here, but even I had to concede that Hankerson was clearly the better choice.
Looking back at Round 4 I didn't really see any zone lineman selected and it's hard not to love a guy with gamebreaking speed like Helu in a Shanahan offense.
Round 5, Gomes. Don't really know what to think of him. My impression as of right now is a Chris Horton clone which seems to be a waste as we already have Horton and Doughty. How I feel about this pick will depend on how well he can live up to his versatile label meaning Nickleback, SS, FS, and Special Teams.
Niles Paul, don't like the pick. He seems like Devin Thomas lite. All the physical tools, slightly worse character, none of the production.
Still in Round 5 the only lineman selected were Marcus Cannon to NE (T/G TCU), Jason Pinkson to Cle (T Pitt), Julian Vandervelde to Phi (G, Iowa), Kilgore to SF (G, App State). Out of those guys Cannon was the only value pick and he was gone before Gomes. Vandervelde would have fit well in a zone scheme but might have been a reach. The other guys are specifically poor fits for zone schemes.
Now in looking at the 6th round the Niles Paul pick from the 5th should have been used on DeMarcus Love. A versitle player that had to play both RT and LT on a regular basis in Petrino's strong weak offense. Love was considered a first round pick at one point but dropped when he was put under the microscope. Reports say he has all the physical tools but is inconsistent when it comes to footwork. I guess they really like Oldenberg, Fulton, and Heyer.
Fusco (C Slippery Rock) was selected before we picked and would have been a decent fit in a ZBS. However I love the vision and production of Royster and people that were hoping to draft Salas should love the pick of Alderick Robinson in the 6th as they both come from the same offense. I constantly heard that the Robinson pick was a steal so I had no problem with it.
The only thing that bums me out is that we missed out in the 7th on one of my favorite prospects in Andrew Jackson. Tough, smart, above average athlete. Jackson dropped from the 3rd or 4th due to corners with durability. Jackson was selected before our pick.
Thompson, as a general principle I HATE corners. I hate them. They're starting to become cocky just as receivers are becoming humble. Still I like Thompsons production and attitude and think he could easily fit nicely as a nickle or dime back as unlike Carlos he's capable of making turnovers.
Going back to Corners though you find that it really is the safest position early because scouts are usually very good at finding the guys that can cover which means a lot of the good corners don't usually fall during the draft. A list of the leagues top corners will give you a list of more first round picks then any other position in the league. Where other positions top players frequently see late round steals, top corners are usually all first and early second rounders.
Rereading Maurice Hurts report makes me feel better about the pick. When we first got him I thought he was more of a mauler with huge character concerns, now I see that the character concerns are minimal and that he does in fact have the physical tools to succeed in this offense.
Chris Neild. Not a lot to dislike about this pick. Tough hard working Nose Guard that at worst will be a rotation player. He will make the team and he will be here for no less then 5 years.
So to review.
In the 2nd round we only really could have considered Wisenski over Jenkins and seeing how badly we needed D-Line help this could have been a bad choice.
In the 3rd the only comprable value to Hankerson was Boling and as good as Boling is Hankerson beat him in both need and talent.
4th round, not a lot to dislike about Helu Jr. Cannon might have been the only justifiable lineman here and between the cancer and the mauler label might now have been a good fit. I'll certainly be rooting for Cannon though
5th Round is where it got tricky. Gomes and Paul were reaches and we could have had DeMarcus Love (OL Arkansas) or Andrew Jackson (G Fresno State).
6th Round, Royster has great vision and production. Robinson has production and talent and with this coaching staff could easily be a steal.
7th Missed out on Jackson. Dirtbag hate's corners especially late round corners since good ones rarely slip to the later rounds. Hurt was a decent pick and should at least be on the practice squad and Neild was a steal.
Looking back at the draft I find myself wondering if we should have taken Stehpen Wisenski over Jarvis Jenkins. However doing so would violate my priorities for building a team (1. QB 2. DL 3. OL 4. RB 5. LB 6. DB. 7. WR/TE).
Round 3 we really did need a receiver and Hankerson was clearly a steal so I have no problem with not drafting an OL. Clint Boling was the only good lineman available, and certainly would have been a nice find here, but even I had to concede that Hankerson was clearly the better choice.
Looking back at Round 4 I didn't really see any zone lineman selected and it's hard not to love a guy with gamebreaking speed like Helu in a Shanahan offense.
Round 5, Gomes. Don't really know what to think of him. My impression as of right now is a Chris Horton clone which seems to be a waste as we already have Horton and Doughty. How I feel about this pick will depend on how well he can live up to his versatile label meaning Nickleback, SS, FS, and Special Teams.
Niles Paul, don't like the pick. He seems like Devin Thomas lite. All the physical tools, slightly worse character, none of the production.
Still in Round 5 the only lineman selected were Marcus Cannon to NE (T/G TCU), Jason Pinkson to Cle (T Pitt), Julian Vandervelde to Phi (G, Iowa), Kilgore to SF (G, App State). Out of those guys Cannon was the only value pick and he was gone before Gomes. Vandervelde would have fit well in a zone scheme but might have been a reach. The other guys are specifically poor fits for zone schemes.
Now in looking at the 6th round the Niles Paul pick from the 5th should have been used on DeMarcus Love. A versitle player that had to play both RT and LT on a regular basis in Petrino's strong weak offense. Love was considered a first round pick at one point but dropped when he was put under the microscope. Reports say he has all the physical tools but is inconsistent when it comes to footwork. I guess they really like Oldenberg, Fulton, and Heyer.
Fusco (C Slippery Rock) was selected before we picked and would have been a decent fit in a ZBS. However I love the vision and production of Royster and people that were hoping to draft Salas should love the pick of Alderick Robinson in the 6th as they both come from the same offense. I constantly heard that the Robinson pick was a steal so I had no problem with it.
The only thing that bums me out is that we missed out in the 7th on one of my favorite prospects in Andrew Jackson. Tough, smart, above average athlete. Jackson dropped from the 3rd or 4th due to corners with durability. Jackson was selected before our pick.
Thompson, as a general principle I HATE corners. I hate them. They're starting to become cocky just as receivers are becoming humble. Still I like Thompsons production and attitude and think he could easily fit nicely as a nickle or dime back as unlike Carlos he's capable of making turnovers.
Going back to Corners though you find that it really is the safest position early because scouts are usually very good at finding the guys that can cover which means a lot of the good corners don't usually fall during the draft. A list of the leagues top corners will give you a list of more first round picks then any other position in the league. Where other positions top players frequently see late round steals, top corners are usually all first and early second rounders.
Rereading Maurice Hurts report makes me feel better about the pick. When we first got him I thought he was more of a mauler with huge character concerns, now I see that the character concerns are minimal and that he does in fact have the physical tools to succeed in this offense.
Chris Neild. Not a lot to dislike about this pick. Tough hard working Nose Guard that at worst will be a rotation player. He will make the team and he will be here for no less then 5 years.
So to review.
In the 2nd round we only really could have considered Wisenski over Jenkins and seeing how badly we needed D-Line help this could have been a bad choice.
In the 3rd the only comprable value to Hankerson was Boling and as good as Boling is Hankerson beat him in both need and talent.
4th round, not a lot to dislike about Helu Jr. Cannon might have been the only justifiable lineman here and between the cancer and the mauler label might now have been a good fit. I'll certainly be rooting for Cannon though
5th Round is where it got tricky. Gomes and Paul were reaches and we could have had DeMarcus Love (OL Arkansas) or Andrew Jackson (G Fresno State).
6th Round, Royster has great vision and production. Robinson has production and talent and with this coaching staff could easily be a steal.
7th Missed out on Jackson. Dirtbag hate's corners especially late round corners since good ones rarely slip to the later rounds. Hurt was a decent pick and should at least be on the practice squad and Neild was a steal.