Kirwan an idiot? Now I've heard it all.
:doh:
The explosion number and production ratios aren't end all predictors of success, but you can't deny there are some interesting correlations there. Think of it as the rule of 26-27-60 for QBs.
skinster
07-12-2011, 01:54 PM
Kirwan an idiot? Now I've heard it all.
:doh:
The explosion number and production ratios aren't end all predictors of success, but you can't deny there are some interesting correlations there. Think of it as the rule of 26-27-60 for QBs.
That is saying that guys who have physical upper strength and stamina, jump high, and jump far are correlated with producing well on defense. DUH.
You have to think deeper than that. The 26-27-60 rule is for qbs, not all defenders. Every defender plays a different position, and some factors apply differently to different positions. Also the 26-27-60 rule has three separate categories, that cannot be combined into one number. This rule basically says that if a defensive end can bench 45 times, but has a 7 foot broad jump and a 25 inch vertical jump, he will have a great explosion number of 77 even though his vertical jump and broad jump (the most important factor for evaluating defensive explosion) are shit. That makes no sense. This equation makes no sense. Of course if you can jump high, far, and bench well that is CORRELATED with success because those are necessary factors to succeed in the NFL. All I'm saying is this formula is messed up in so many ways; where the most important ones are the mathematics of it are way off due to adding up indicators independent of each other , and that is that its not specific to position.
Obviously these two indexes aren't huge measures of a draft prospects potential success in the NFL, but it does give a clue as to the type of player he was from both a physical and production standpoint coming out of college.
No need to look deeper, the above sums up what this is all about.
musicmaster45
07-12-2011, 02:17 PM
Ok so i asked a question at Dan Granzio's weekly chats. I asked him whether Helu or Hankerson would make a bigger impact on the offense. He said Helu cause he thought they drafted him to start right away and Hankerson had some questions about his route running.
skinster
07-12-2011, 02:33 PM
Ok so i asked a question at Dan Granzio's weekly chats. I asked him whether Helu or Hankerson would make a bigger impact on the offense. He said Helu cause he thought they drafted him to start right away and Hankerson had some questions about his route running.
I think we drafted Helu to be our Jamaal Charles (of course not as good, but that type of player). A change of pace back that can burn you. I'm not going to predict who is going to have more of an impact until I see what our FA class is like, and even then I'll probably still be about 50-50 on their impacts. Helu will Help with our big play ability when running and Hankerson will help with WR depth. Both will help and contribute, but this upcoming season I don't think either will contribute immensely.
musicmaster45
07-12-2011, 02:47 PM
I hope they can be great fast but that is probably just a pipe dream.
freddyg12
07-12-2011, 03:36 PM
I wonder how much Helu & Royster will be allowed to run the ball if they can't block. Will Shanny bench those guys if they can't pick up blitzes? Saw it w/J. Davis last year, one game he missed a block on one of his first plays & he was out the rest of the day.
musicmaster45
07-12-2011, 03:42 PM
well i know that was one of the reasons we drafted Royster his blocking and pass catching so Royter has the advantage there
I wonder how much Helu & Royster will be allowed to run the ball if they can't block. Will Shanny bench those guys if they can't pick up blitzes? Saw it w/J. Davis last year, one game he missed a block on one of his first plays & he was out the rest of the day.
If they can't block they won't be playing much on 3rd downs. But that's where KW fits in.
skinsfan69
07-12-2011, 04:30 PM
I don't even see Williams making the team.