Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated

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Lockout could be back on.



I don't get this. How is it one judge sees all these things in the CBA that broke Anti-trust laws, yet now we have another judge allowing the lockout?

****ing retarded.

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Lockout could be back on.



I don't get this. How is it one judge sees all these things in the CBA that broke Anti-trust laws, yet now we have another judge allowing the lockout?

****ing retarded.

Well basically, it takes players type money to pay off State level judges, but it takes owner type money to pay off Appellate level judges.






I keeed, I keeed

Well basically, it takes players type money to pay off State level judges, but it takes owner type money to pay off Appellate level judges.






I keeed, I keeed

Probably closer to the truth than you know. Justice in this country is bought and paid for.

EricStangel Eric Stangel
by gregaiello
BREAKING: The NFL #Lockout may or may not be back on... or off...
17 minutes ag

yeah it's definitely not back on... yet!

Man, we were all saying Mort is Mr. Doom and Gloom yesterday, but he called this

what an unfortunate situation

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Lockout could be back on.



I don't get this. How is it one judge sees all these things in the CBA that broke Anti-trust laws, yet now we have another judge allowing the lockout?

****ing retarded.

Its simple - Judge Nelson was completely wrong from a legal perspective and horribly short-sighted.

Judge Nelsons ruling would have forced the NFL to establish some sort of rules. the NFLPA* would have then filed an anti-trust suit, as 32 independant teams could not unilaterally impose any kind of rules on a non-unionized workforce. The ultimate result of this would be a horribly one-sided "CBA" where the owners got an even worse deal than the one they have been in.

As a result, this deal would be VERY short and whenever it expired, we would be right back in the same mess we're in now.

From a logical perspective, consider this - if the union is allowed to strike, then the NFL should be allowed to lock out the players. Anything else is simply unfair. Both sides have to have equal leverage if they are going to negotiate a deal that is fair for both sides. It seems pretty clear that DeMaurice Smith sabotagued the entire process and never once negotiated with the NFL in good faith. His remarks are always to the extreme and border on insanity.

Ultimately, the only way we will have long-term labor peace in the NFL is if both sides negotiate a fair deal. The best chance for that to happen is during the lockout. Both sides have to get back to the bargaining table and continuing the lockout will essentially force both sides to do just that. If the players had any sense, they'd remove Smith from the process ASAP and assign a delegation to talk with the owners and work out a deal, using the last offer the NFL made back in march as a starting point.

Insider The Insider
8th District Appeals Court Clerk Michael E. Gans says no ruling issued either way. Previous reports of lockout back on are erroneous.

Of course they're erroneous, we're posting reports from PFT here.

Imagine that