Whose QB Should We Choose?

Have over 72% of the people here forgotten about a man by the name of Daniel Snyder? Dan Snyder hired Mike Shanahan to run the football side of the business. Mike was hired based on his extensive experience and good track record. Snyder did not hire Kyle Shanahan to do anything. He allowed Mike Shanahan to hire his son.

Drafting a first round QB is a big decision for an NFL franchise. I don't think that it would be acceptable to Dan Snyder for Mike Shanahan to allow anyone else to make that decision for him. And I don't think that MS is the kind of man who would do that, anyway.

Mike had better be 100% behind any QB the Redskins draft if he wants to keep his job. Try to imagine this happening: "Dan, I know Whatshisname sucks but he wasn't my choice. Kyle kept whining about wanting to pick our next QB and he's such a good son I let him do it. I would've picked Whozit". Yeah, that'll work.

By the way, how could anyone get the idea that Kyle will be Mike's successor? Mike won't determine that. Dan Snyder will determine that.

I agree as well Schneed. And if we draft Kaepernick we will need to design both of those kinds of plays. Lol.

Well folks, I've just gotten back from a week in the Caribbean while on my honeymoon with no internet, which KILLED me. What have I missed? I want the sportscenter highlights, warpath style.

This is a cool thread because it forces everyone to think about the dynamics in the organizational structure.

First to KI Skins Fan, any good leader that decides to delegate a decision like in this hypothetical example, that leader then stands behind the decision to his superiors. If Mike delegated the decision to Kyle, the decision then becomes Mike's by extension, and he has to support it or be held accountable. He can't distance himself from it. And he wouldn't. Mike is a good leader, he understands that.

I also don't think Mike would truly delegate a decision that way though. He would listen to Kyle and all of his other coaches state their cases, but ultimately he'll make the decision. Kyle is going to offer some great perspective and insight, especially from an Xs and Os point of view. But Mike has so much more experience, including the experience of coaching Steve Young and John Elway. Kyle has never gotten to coach players of that caliber. So when Mike sits down with Locker, Dalton, and any other QB for an interview or a study session, he'll use his experience to help pick up on the personal characteristics that made Elway and Young such good leaders.

So many dynamics involved here. Technical knowledge of Xs and Os vs experience. Boots on the ground style involvement with players vs overall strategic direction of the franchise. Finding a player that fits the system vs finding a player to which you can tailor a better system. Skill vs leadership and moxie.

Football is so great.

I would choose Mike's QB. He is the Head Coach we hired...he is the one with all the experience. I think we all like the potential in Kyle and like to think about what he could be down the line for us, but we don't know for sure if he is even a good OC let alone head coaching material. And he has absolutely no experience in scouting and drafting QB's. This is Mike Shannahan's team...he should choose the QB he thinks is best for the Redskins and Kyle should do everything he can to support Mike and whoever that QB ends up being.

This is a cool thread because it forces everyone to think about the dynamics in the organizational structure.

First to KI Skins Fan, any good leader that decides to delegate a decision like in this hypothetical example, that leader then stands behind the decision to his superiors. If Mike delegated the decision to Kyle, the decision then becomes Mike's by extension, and he has to support it or be held accountable. He can't distance himself from it. And he wouldn't. Mike is a good leader, he understands that.

I also don't think Mike would truly delegate a decision that way though. He would listen to Kyle and all of his other coaches state their cases, but ultimately he'll make the decision. Kyle is going to offer some great perspective and insight, especially from an Xs and Os point of view. But Mike has so much more experience, including the experience of coaching Steve Young and John Elway. Kyle has never gotten to coach players of that caliber. So when Mike sits down with Locker, Dalton, and any other QB for an interview or a study session, he'll use his experience to help pick up on the personal characteristics that made Elway and Young such good leaders.

So many dynamics involved here. Technical knowledge of Xs and Os vs experience. Boots on the ground style involvement with players vs overall strategic direction of the franchise. Finding a player that fits the system vs finding a player to which you can tailor a better system. Skill vs leadership and moxie.

Football is so great.

Of course, he'll make the decision the way you say he will do it. I agree with you completely on that. I was being a bit sarcastic.

This thread doesn't make any sense to me to begin with and then to see that about 75% of those who voted think that Kyle should make the decision I find to be amazingly naive.

This whole question only comes up because of the father/son relationship involved. Otherwise, nobody would ever think that Mike should defer to his OC in making this decision. But Mike won't defer to Kyle either because this is business; it's not about whether to go miniature golfing or to the movies (oops, more sarcasm).

Well, how about looking at it like this. Offensive coordinators clearly have input on what QBs are on the roster. Rex Grossman (and probably John Beck) aren't here without Kyle Shanahan. Todd Collins doesn't come here if not for Al Saunders.

But backups are not the same as starters, but why shouldn't Kyle's guy be starting from the get go?

Regardless of the Father/Son relationship, I don't see anything wrong with deferring to an OC when that coach has autonomy of the offense. Kyle is the one that has to work one on one with that QB so he should have a significant say.

I'm working off the assumption that this decision would be made with the two of them working closely together on it and any indecision on either's part would be minor. If there is a major difference in opinion, well that's a big problem regardless and not a good way to go about selecting a potential franchise QB.

Well, how about looking at it like this. Offensive coordinators clearly have input on what QBs are on the roster. Rex Grossman (and probably John Beck) aren't here without Kyle Shanahan. Todd Collins doesn't come here if not for Al Saunders.

But backups are not the same as starters, but why shouldn't Kyle's guy be starting from the get go?

If his guy should not be starting, how much confidence do you really have in KS as a coordinator?

Well, how about looking at it like this. Offensive coordinators clearly have input on what QBs are on the roster. Rex Grossman (and probably John Beck) aren't here without Kyle Shanahan. Todd Collins doesn't come here if not for Al Saunders.

But backups are not the same as starters, but why shouldn't Kyle's guy be starting from the get go?

Because Dan Snyder isn't paying Mike Shanahan the big bucks to let his relatively inexperienced OC (and son) make such an important decision for the franchise. You said it yourself: Mike Shanahan is ultimately reponsible.

Of course, he'll make the decision the way you say he will do it. I agree with you completely on that. I was being a bit sarcastic.

This thread doesn't make any sense to me to begin with and then to see that about 75% of those who voted think that Kyle should make the decision I find to be amazingly naive.

This whole question only comes up because of the father/son relationship involved. Otherwise, nobody would ever think that Mike should defer to his OC in making this decision. But Mike won't defer to Kyle either because this is business; it's not about whether to go miniature golfing or to the movies (oops, more sarcasm).

Actually I think that with this decision the HC should be very open to the ideas of the OC, father/son or not. If the OC is not comfortable with the QB, the offense will not function optimally.