26-27-60 QB formula

Randy Moss 12, Chris Johnson 10, Frank Gore 6? Has anyone taken a wonderlic? I'm far from a genius and I could still score in the 20's if I was blind drunk. It's amazing how stupid some of these guys are.

Well in all fairness, these guys are football players not scholars.

Great memory turns Gabbert into top prospect - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-carpenter_memory_improves_gabbert_stock_041911)


A piece on Gabbert's great memory and ability to pick up things fast. Yeah, that piece made me covet him for the Skins. Doubt that will happen but a fan can dream can't he?

Tyrod Taylor is a poor man's version of Pat White. He's definitely not as good as White was in college, and he's not a NFL type of QB. Maybe he can follow in the footsteps of Randal El and return punts for a .35/yard average.

I think Tyrod is just about the exact same player as White. White had a better system with better players around him. Of course White has been a washout in the NFL so what does it matter? I still like Taylor a lot for some reason. He didn't get near the credit he deserved last season. He should have been in the discussion for Heisman.

Randy Moss 12, Chris Johnson 10, Frank Gore 6? Has anyone taken a wonderlic? I'm far from a genius and I could still score in the 20's if I was blind drunk. It's amazing how stupid some of these guys are.

I believed they changed it to take place in the morning, and I'm not sure when they did...but the Wonderlic used to be administered at the end of a long day of physical workouts and interviews. So imagine you've spent several hours doing physical tests (lifts, sprints, etc), running through position drills, speaking with coaches and front office execs, and then you're given less than 15 minutes to take this test

I agree with you, however I think some QB's picked up by teams are picked up because of their ability and not looked at if they would fit the scheme the team runs.

and on another note how many HC's who pick up a QB build the scheme around the QB? I think when you see a really bad team go out and pick up a QB and the next year they are in the playoff hunt I start thinking the HC did a good job of changing up his scheme to what the QB does best. Then there is the HC that simply say the QB needs to learn the plays. I think the latter is ok for a team who already has a starting QB and picks one up in the draft to ride the bench a few yrs to learn the play calls.

Interesting you should mention that because McNabb and Kyle Shanahan illustrate some of the scenarios that presents. Trying to explain why McNabb didn't perform that well last season, you could say it was McNabb's ineptitude at learning a new playbook, the Shanahan's "inflexibility" in accommodating him, or other factors (questionable OL, no receivers, etc).

The real question: assuming you can attribute some of McNabb's struggles to having trouble learning the playbook, could that have been predicted based on his Wonderlic score? Or could Andy Reid have predicted McNabb's poor clock management abilities?

IMO, way too many factors to say definitively that there's a clear link between the two. But at the same time, it's definitely in the back of my mind during talent selection. I think GMs should pay attention to the 26-27-60 forumula.

Of those 9 QB's you listed, Mallett has the 8th best completion %. I thought that was his calling card, his "amazing" arm. Doesn't matter if he can throw an 80 yard pass if it's in the dirt. Mallett had a 64% completion % last year and threw for 32.

Not hardly. Up until last year, Vick has been horrible as a QB.

Michael Vick: Career Stats at NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/players/michaelvick/careerstats?id=VIC311467)

He had a grand total of one year where he threw for over 2,500 yards and had a QB rating over 78. (81)

I'm sorry, he's the DeAngelo Hall of the QB position. He's hyped up because fans see him avoiding tackles on ESPN and think that's the mark of a good QB.

Vick the running back on the other hand is very good. Too bad he plays the QB position.

You mean the same teams that led the league in rushing and had an above average defense? No, you're right. It was Vick and those ESPN highlights that carried them to glory...lol

It's funny, that basically the same team that Vick played with did so much better with Matt Ryan (11-5 in fact). Wonder why that is?

Child please.Um what?

Vick was a horrible QB?

Beating the Packers at Lambeau to go to NFC championship game ring a bell?

Horrible.
2x Pro Bowl.
Horrible.
Winner.
Horrible.

Revisionist history Island must be a great place.

I used to live in ATL and Mike Vick wasthe team.
Ryan is part of a good team.

I also don't feel like 60% should be the baseline for completion percentage. 62% is an average college completion percentage. If you're below 57%, you pretty much don't have the skill to complete passes. But 60% and 58% are both below the average. Neither is at 62%. So there's no reason that Mallett, Stanzi, and Kaepernick should "fail" in completion percentage while Gabbert "passes." Gabbert us higher, but below the average.

If you bumped up the baseline to 62%, only really great prospects would get past. And also, the only guy who would have passed the rule this year is McElroy.

Of those 9 QB's you listed, Mallett has the 8th best completion %. I thought that was his calling card, his "amazing" arm. Doesn't matter if he can throw an 80 yard pass if it's in the dirt.re: Mallett's accuracy, its not great, and should be treated as such on draft day. However, the raw completion percentage number is somewhat deflated by Mallett not playing his senior season, which would (theoretically) be one of his higher comp% seasons.

He's already being punished for coming out early by the games started total, so I would treat that 58% completion as a bottom end projection for him in the NFL. As in: he'll be at 58% or better as a pro. Which is what you want from a player.

Devlin, Tolzien, TJ Yates all pass as well, and are all great late round prospects in the form of Greg McElroy.