Official The Killing Thread (Warning: Potential Spoilers)

SS - Can you get Bill Simmons to come on here and expand on this great article?
Bill Simmons on The Killing - Grantland (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6680958/hackery-first-degree)

It seriously makes me mad that I wasted so much time with the show. I'd much rather have another season of Rubicon than the killing.
But, as sad as it is to admit, I might actually give season 2 a chance because I think the premise can be saved. Unless of course the backlash is so great that AMC just says "F it" and pretends they never agreed to keep going.

Mr. Simmons and I aren't exactly best of friends

Watched the finale again. Tolerated it a bit more. Overall thought the episode wasn't awful, just expected some "closure" at the end. And I still don't know why I should feel bad that Rosie was killed, aside from the obvious. But we really know nothing about her

To me, the only thing that made the last four or five episodes tolerable was the acting.

Ah, I stand alone on this one. Loved the ending. Despite the network's promises, I didn't put my eggs in the reveal basket. I had no expectations regarding a final answer.

People are pissed and everyone's talking about it. Holder's ambivalent ending, Rosie's mystery ongoing, Season 2 picked up. I'm lovin' it.

Geez, they didn't answer "Who Killed Rosie Larsen?" after 13 eps. I think viewers forget that each ep. represented a day in the investigation. Some think the Ahmed arc took too long (and maybe it did represent 1/4 of the season). But it was a solid lead they followed for only two or three "TV" days. I see SS's criticism of wanting to know more about Rosie, but I think part of the show's mystery is finding out who she was. At the beginning of the investigation, the viewers only know that she was a bit contentious with her mother and she kept some suspect company. Towards the end, we learn she was experimenting with professional escorting. I'd say that's quite a bit of dead girl development within two "TV" weeks.

Although the billboards emphasize "Who Killed Rosie Larsen?", that's not how I watched this show. The mystery is a basis for the fallout on three levels- the Larsen family, the detective investigation and Richmond's campaign. Anyone remember Twin Peaks? ABC marketed the show as a murder mystery, but fans will tell you that finding out Laura Palmer's killer wasn't what kept them watching.

JJ Abrams had apologists galore after refusing to answer six seasons' worth of island mysteries (insert "Answers brought on more questions" and "It was always about the characters anyway" screams here).

If you are down on the Killing still go watch Breaking Bad you have until 7/17 to get caught up for the start of season 4. Such a awesome series! I just finished season 3 on DVD, I put that action up against any Hollywood block buster. It was edge of your seat type stuff.

Mr. Simmons and I aren't exactly best of friends

Is he friends with anyone at ESPN? Seems he only works there because the website needs him for traffic. I love his stuff generally.

Ah, I stand alone on this one. Loved the ending. Despite the network's promises, I didn't put my eggs in the reveal basket. I had no expectations regarding a final answer.

People are pissed and everyone's talking about it. Holder's ambivalent ending, Rosie's mystery ongoing, Season 2 picked up. I'm lovin' it.

Geez, they didn't answer "Who Killed Rosie Larsen?" after 13 eps. I think viewers forget that each ep. represented a day in the investigation. Some think the Ahmed arc took too long (and maybe it did represent 1/4 of the season). But it was a solid lead they followed for only two or three "TV" days. I see SS's criticism of wanting to know more about Rosie, but I think part of the show's mystery is finding out who she was. At the beginning of the investigation, the viewers only know that she was a bit contentious with her mother and she kept some suspect company. Towards the end, we learn she was experimenting with professional escorting. I'd say that's quite a bit of dead girl development within two "TV" weeks.

Although the billboards emphasize "Who Killed Rosie Larsen?", that's not how I watched this show. The mystery is a basis for the fallout on three levels- the Larsen family, the detective investigation and Richmond's campaign. Anyone remember Twin Peaks? ABC marketed the show as a murder mystery, but fans will tell you that finding out Laura Palmer's killer wasn't what kept them watching.

JJ Abrams had apologists galore after refusing to answer six seasons' worth of island mysteries (insert "Answers brought on more questions" and "It was always about the characters anyway" screams here).

They answered the central mysteries on Lost. Whether people liked how they did so is another matter.

And JJ Abrams had nothing to do with Lost after creating it. He moved on to directing MI:III and never came back.

Is he friends with anyone at ESPN? Seems he only works there because the website needs him for traffic. I love his stuff generally.

Friends with the right people, I suppose.

Candidly speaking, the website wouldn't hurt significantly without him.

I have mixed feelings on him

Friends with the right people, I suppose.

Candidly speaking, the website wouldn't hurt significantly without him.

I have mixed feelings on him


ESPN use to be my go to site for Sports but I find SI.com way better IMO. They generally have better coverage and better writers, like Peter King. I also love Extra Mustard. ESPN.com is just so "meh", of late. Bill S. to me is really the only thing that draws me to ESPN.com anymore.

I don't mean to dig at you SS just my opinion.

Also I bumped this thread for Breaking Bad and everyone ignored me, fawk this place! =)

ESPN use to be my go to site for Sports but I find SI.com way better IMO. They generally have better coverage and better writers, like Peter King. I also love Extra Mustard. ESPN.com is just so "meh", of late. Bill S. to me is really the only thing that draws me to ESPN.com anymore.

I don't mean to dig at you SS just my opinion.

Also I bumped this thread for Breaking Bad and everyone ignored me, fawk this place! =)

I think SI is great. And while SI.com doesn't have a large audience, it seems to have a very dedicated, passionate audience. I used to love watching their weeknight sports show with Fred Hickman and Nick Charles (RIP)

That said, people mainly just go to Extra Mustard to see the pictures of the girls not for sports info. And I think ESPN has some outstanding writers. Our problem is information overload, a lot of the good material is buried. It's a constant struggle to find the right way to present our best info.

I tend to go to places like CSNWashington and SB Nation DC for my sports because I want to read about my local teams and ESPN can't provide analysis and info at the level of detail those sites can.

Anyhow, as for Breaking Bad. I keep wanting to watch that show. I saw the first episode a couple of years ago and liked it but never stayed with the show.

As for The Killing, is season 2 next summer?