Dirtbag59
04-11-2011, 07:38 PM
Well lets list sleepers that emerged last year and see if anyone thought they would amount to something.
LeGarrette Blount - RB - Bucs - This is one that we all figured was capable of doing some damage.
Tony Moeaki - TE - Cheifs - Didn't see that one coming. Wasn't dynamite but 300 yards for a 3rd round TE is pretty solid.
Koa Misi - OLB - Dolphins - I think some of us had him pegged as a possible impact player.
Mike Williams - WR - Bucs - I don't think anyone wanted to look at recievers last year.
Riley Cooper - WR - Philly - 5th round steal apparently.
SmootSmack
04-11-2011, 07:40 PM
Well lets list sleepers that emerged last year and see if anyone thought they would amount to something.
LeGarrette Blount - RB - Bucs - This is one that we all figured was capable of doing some damage.
Tony Moeaki - TE - Cheifs - Didn't see that one coming. Wasn't dynamite but 300 yards for a 3rd round TE is pretty solid.
Koa Misi - OLB - Dolphins - I think some of us had him pegged as a possible impact player.
Mike Williams - WR - Bucs - I don't think anyone wanted to look at recievers last year.
James Starks came on pretty strong toward the end of the year
BuckSkin
04-11-2011, 09:26 PM
(C-OG) Ryan Bartholomew from Syracuse. After you plug his name in your favorite search engine, I won't be the only one talking about him.
BuckSkin
04-11-2011, 09:35 PM
Check that..... Cult mentioned him too.
Dirtbag59
04-12-2011, 12:08 AM
James Starks came on pretty strong toward the end of the year
What about some players that ended up being sleepers from the 2008 and 2009 draft, because after reading midseason and end of season rookie reports a lot of guys drafted after round 2 were simply relegated to backup duty if anything at all.
I still contend though that it's always the guys we've never heard of on draft day that end up being the good players.
Only one I can find for now is Steve Johnson - WR - Buffalo. A 2008 7th round pick from Kentucky (SEC Pride ya'll) that just posted a 1,073 10 TD season....IN BUFFALO!
Here's some more:
2008:
Anthony Collins - OT - Cincinati - 4th round pick out of Kansas
Carl Nicks - OG - Saints - 5th Round pick out of Nebraska.
Davone Bess - WR - Dolphins - UDFA out of Hawaii.
Steve Slaton - RB - Texans - 3rd Round Pick out of West VA.
2009
Sebastian Vollmer - OT - Patriots - Second Round Pick out of Houston
DeAndre Levy - LB - Lions - 3rd Round pick out of Wisconsin.
skinsfaninok
04-12-2011, 12:29 AM
Slaton really hasn't done anything
SmootSmack
04-12-2011, 12:37 AM
What about some players that ended up being sleepers from the 2008 and 2009 draft, because after reading midseason and end of season rookie reports a lot of guys drafted after round 2 were simply relegated to backup duty if anything at all.
I still contend though that it's always the guys we've never heard of on draft day that end up being the good players.
Only one I can find for now is Steve Johnson - WR - Buffalo. A 2008 7th round pick from Kentucky (SEC Pride ya'll) that just posted a 1,073 10 TD season....IN BUFFALO!
Here's some more:
2008:
Anthony Collins - OT - Cincinati - 4th round pick out of Kansas
Carl Nicks - OG - Saints - 5th Round pick out of Nebraska.
Davone Bess - WR - Dolphins - UDFA out of Hawaii.
Steve Slaton - RB - Texans - 3rd Round Pick out of West VA.
2009
Sebastian Vollmer - OT - Patriots - Second Round Pick out of Houston
DeAndre Levy - LB - Lions - 3rd Round pick out of Wisconsin.
Not sure what your point is. You're talking about just a few players. Plus, I mentioned Carl Nicks back in the winter of 2008. And 53Fan mentioned Vollmer. And I'm sure there's more
So I think "it's always the guys we've never heard of on draft day that end up being the good players" may be just a bit off base
NM Redskin
04-12-2011, 04:32 AM
Davon House - New Mexico State ... Darrell Green 2.0 baby! But really, the guys got the instincts and the physical tools, he is a bit raw though. Also he was coached by Dwayne Walker, who was a pretty good Db coach here. And is endorsed by NM Redskin, booyah.
YouTube - Davon House vs. San Diego St. (2010) (http://youtu.be/J9g1Ff0odmc)
30gut
04-12-2011, 10:09 AM
RB-
Noel Devine (KR/PR/Change of pace/3rd down)
Dion Lewis "
Da'Rel Scott
Mario Fanin
OL-
John Moffit (is he really a sleeper?)
(C) Ryan Bartholomew
WR-
Stephen Burton
Ricardo Lockette
DL-
Brandon Bair conversion DT to 3-4 DE
Sione Fua NT
Ian Williams NT
Chris Nield NT
LB-
Ugo Chinasa conversion DE to OLB
KJ Wright LB
Alex Woooojack (Baby!!)
CB-
Demarcus Van Dyke
Ryan Jones
Kedrick Burney
Buster Skrine
KI Skins Fan
04-12-2011, 10:14 AM
There a decent crop of 2nd tier RBs whom I would consider sleepers...look to last year, Blunt and Ivory were the top rookie RBs and neither were drafted.
This year is prime in the RBs department to pull a Shanny special, even though some of those "sleepers" look to be moving up on boards from what im hearing.
I agree with you completely about the mid-to-late round RB's. I consider most of them to be 3rd Down Back candidates (actually, more like change of pace RB candidates because I don't know if they can pass-protect). We should be able to get a good RB prospect late.
Two backs I like very much who may have moved up from "sleeper" to higher round status are Kendall Hunter (Ok St) and Delone Carter (Syr). I have been very impressed with Hunter every time I've seen him play but his lack of size (5-7, 200) may be an issue. I like everything about Delone Carter and I think he may have a good NFL career. He is bigger than Hunter at 5-9, 222 which should help him to endure the pounding a RB takes in the NFL. Jordan Todman (UConn) is another good prospect with NFL size who may have moved up since the Combine.
I'm trying to like DeMarco Murray as much as some others here do, but I just can't. He runs too high, he's always injured, and he just seems to lack toughness. Pass. Another player that I'm told to like but don't is Evan Royster. I've never seen him do anything on the football field that impressed me.
Two late round RB's who are blazing fast and can catch the ball are Da'Rel Scott (Md) and Nic Grigsby (Az). These guys are potential home run hitters and I think they'll get an opportunity with some team. I'd include Derrick Locke with this group if I didn't think that he's too slight for the NFL.