Cerrato on Zorn

You know what's worse than this acting in this movie? Vinny's acting during his time here as the Redskins GM. He failed both roles miserably.

Ummm the acting in that movie was amazing. I need to find it on Netflix like right now!

That Zorn fiasco was a Vinny F-up because they were set to hire fassel until they recieved alot of negative feedback from the fans that caused them to turn away from Jim and scramble.

I think Greg would have been an excellent hire because he had the team leadership behind him and I believe he learned more about what it takes to be a great headcoach from Gibbs.

You don't work with someone that close without having part of their personallity rub off on you.

That whole fan revolt stuff is pretty overplayed. Ultimately it was really that Cerrato and Fassel couldn't co-exist. Cerrato couldn't handle it.

Remember Fassel was very nearly our head coach in 2004, but then Gibbs came calling. And how are you going to turn him down?

Then in 2008, Fassel wanted Zorn and Rex Ryan as his coordinators. We couldn't get Ryan but we did get Zorn for Fassel. But then Snyder caved to the whole "let a football guy run the team" mentality (I guess that was the real fan revolt) and let Cerrato-who, like it or not, has plenty of football experience-run Fassel out of town (before he even got here).

That whole fan revolt stuff is pretty overplayed. Ultimately it was really that Cerrato and Fassel couldn't co-exist. Cerrato couldn't handle it.

Remember Fassel was very nearly our head coach in 2004, but then Gibbs came calling. And how are you going to turn him down?

Then in 2008, Fassel wanted Zorn and Rex Ryan as his coordinators. We couldn't get Ryan but we did get Zorn for Fassel. But then Snyder caved to the whole "let a football guy run the team" mentality (I guess that was the real fan revolt) and let Cerrato-who, like it or not, has plenty of football experience-run Fassel out of town (before he even got here).

Thats the truth about Cerrato. We dont like him, but the fact is he had plenty of experience and was well qualified to run the football team. Damn, thinking back, i guess Vinny's biggest problem was that he knew the right moves to make for the good of the football team, but he had nobody 'over him" per say, to tell him, hey vinny, maybe we shouldnt spend this much on a guy. Snyder was not a football guy and i guess the true problem was giving Vinny total control.

But as others stated, Vinny should own up to making the mistake of hiring Zorn, when Cerrato, truly being a football guy, knew that Zorn was not cut out for the job.

I looked at Cerrato's work history, and the truth is the man really was involved in good stuff and seemed to do his job well. When he arrived here, his good work ran out. Could Dan Synder just be the end all to why people are never successful here in ANY capacity???

It's just hilarious that we're supposed to believe Zorn's downfall was his ego. He was doomed from the start here with Vinny hovering over his every move. There's a reason why Vinny didn't trust Zorn from the start... he knew he was in over his head.

Just F off already, Vinny.


I didn't understand that either. Jim Zorn with a ego? You mean the man that used words like "gosh golly" and "ouchie" is a man with a ego? No, Bill Parcells has a ego. Bill Bellicheat has a ego. Rex Ryan has a ego. Mike Shannahan has a ego. Jim Zorn does not have a ego.


I find some things comical about Vinny.

1) says he had nobody on staff that could call the plays, then rips Zorn for not listening to said incompetent staff

2) Wise asks him who's idea it was to bring in Jeff George after Brad Johnson had that good year. He doesn't recall...lol......in other word's it was Danny boys decision.

3) Considers Joe's second tenure a success...lol

4) Says Joe Gibb's stop calling plays due to media pressure?....lol

5) Says he checked out Haynesworth before the FA signing and that Sherm Smith vouched for his time in Tennessee. Seems that Sherm Smith disagrees 100% with Vinny. In fact, he told them "BUYER BEWARE". A flat out lie by Vinny on the AH signing.
Smith: Cerrato's Recall 'Ridiculous' (http://www.csnwashington.com/08/24/10/Smith-Cerratos-Recall-Ridiculous/landing.html?blockID=296766&feedID=272)

6) Says Schwartz and Spaggs weren't experienced enough to be head coaches, but yet they thought a guy who had never been a coordinator would be a good head coach?....lol

7) You can tell he's lying about Dan's involvement in football matters. He always hesitates before he answers.


Former Redskins GM Vinny Cerrato Joins Mike Wise In Studio « CBS Washington (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2011/03/08/former-redskins-gm-vinny-cerrato-joins-mike-wise-in-studio/)

God I want this guy to get hit by a bus but still live. The best place for Vinny would be in traction in some rehab unit in a hospital right about now.


If I were Jim Zorn, I'd kick Vinny square in the nuts if I ever ran into him again.

There's a reason why VC's phone will never ring from anyone in this league, other than from Snyder of course. He's a complete FAIL as a GM.

I didn't understand that either. Jim Zorn with a ego? You mean the man that used words like "gosh golly" and "ouchie" is a man with a ego? No, Bill Parcells has a ego. Bill Bellicheat has a ego. Rex Ryan has a ego. Mike Shannahan has a ego. Jim Zorn does not have a ego.


I find some things comical about Vinny.

1) says he had nobody on staff that could call the plays, then rips Zorn for not listening to said incompetent staff

2) Wise asks him who's idea it was to bring in Jeff George after Brad Johnson had that good year. He doesn't recall...lol......in other word's it was Danny boys decision.

3) Considers Joe's second tenure a success...lol

4) Says Joe Gibb's stop calling plays due to media pressure?....lol

5) Says he checked out Haynesworth before the FA signing and that Sherm Smith vouched for his time in Tennessee. Seems that Sherm Smith disagrees 100% with Vinny. In fact, he told them "BUYER BEWARE". A flat out lie by Vinny on the AH signing.
Smith: Cerrato's Recall 'Ridiculous' (http://www.csnwashington.com/08/24/10/Smith-Cerratos-Recall-Ridiculous/landing.html?blockID=296766&feedID=272)

6) Says Schwartz and Spaggs weren't experienced enough to be head coaches, but yet they thought a guy who had never been a coordinator would be a good head coach?....lol

7) You can tell he's lying about Dan's involvement in football matters. He always hesitates before he answers.


Former Redskins GM Vinny Cerrato Joins Mike Wise In Studio « CBS Washington (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2011/03/08/former-redskins-gm-vinny-cerrato-joins-mike-wise-in-studio/)

God I want this guy to get hit by a bus but still live. The best place for Vinny would be in traction in some rehab unit in a hospital right about now.

Look at the piece he said about Joe Gibbs. It's hard to say he's lying about that. When the offense struggled during the final games of the 2005 season, and in the playoffs, most people, the media, and myself included, blamed Joe Gibbs for being too conservative. Joe Gibbs, being the man he is, brought in Al Saunders because he started to believe the criticism and wanted to help the team.

When Vinny says if Gibbs called the plays in 2006, that they'd be back in the playoffs, i agree 100%. Seeing how much utter shit we were in 2006 made me eat crow, and i missed the Joe Gibbs offense. Hell it was simple minded, but it worked, was proven, and WON CHAMPIONSHIPS.

Gibbs did get Cerrato high praise to Snyder. that much is true. I dont really believe Joe Gibbs would lie, just to put over the organization on his way out.

When Vinny says if Gibbs called the plays in 2006, that they'd be back in the playoffs, i agree 100%. Seeing how much utter shit we were in 2006 made me eat crow, and i missed the Joe Gibbs offense. Hell it was simple minded, but it worked, was proven, and WON CHAMPIONSHIPS.

That offense won in a different era. One that had bypassed Joe a long time ago. We wouldn't have done any better with Joe calling the plays. As much as it pains Skins fans to say it, Joe was a failure his second go around regardless of those two meaningless playoff appearances. You can't be out of the league for that long and not lose something. What he did bring to this team was respect, hope, and leadership.


Gibbs did get Cerrato high praise to Snyder. that much is true. I dont really believe Joe Gibbs would lie, just to put over the organization on his way out.


I don't believe Joe would "lie", but it's hard to be objective when you got people constantly kissing your ass, and that's exactly what people did.

I really truly feel in my heart that Vinny C. is a dickhead, but i think with spewing alot of his B.S., he gave us alot of truth about how things happened in the organization. Just wait for it, he will trash Dan Snyder before it is all over, and then Vinny will be a hero, lol.

Snyder is the only supporter VC has... if he trashes him he's even more dumb than we thought.

I've always felt like Snyder's friendship with Cerrato was not so much about the two if them, but about Snyder's respect for his father who, for whatever reason, was very tight with Vinny.

I know a lot of front offices would welcome VC to be part of their organization and do tge dirty work in the background. He had his first chance to lead here and he failed