tryfuhl
03-05-2011, 12:03 AM
I just don't agree with signing a 30 year old safety on a bad team. OJ is not the long term solution IMO. But he's an upgrade so it is what it is.
Can't sign perfect fits all in one year. This doesn't keep us from improving the position over the next few seasons.
44ever
03-05-2011, 12:28 AM
You do mean the PROBOWL MVP DHall, and by far our BEST Defensive back right?
I do! :)
ethat001
03-05-2011, 09:52 AM
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IMO go get a guy in the later rounds. Find a diamond in the rough. Coach up Moore and get him healthy. That's how I'd address it. Chasing a 30 year old safety when you're not contending for a Super Bowl makes 0 sense.
Sure, if we traded picks to get him, this doesn't make sense. But since all it cost was Synder's money, who cares?? We unloaded a lot of contracts so I think we're looking good for the salary cap.
Atogwe is a good move because:
1) Free agent, didn't cost picks.
2) Seems like a good locker-room guy.
3) Good veteran who can help K.Moore/young secondary.
4) Makes our D more competitive & fun to watch.
Seeing #21 in the highlights was hard to watch. To think what could have been - at least this year we'll see a glimpse of good safety play again.
juskins
03-05-2011, 02:04 PM
^Agreed definitely should've pulled the trigger on this last yr, but he's durable, knows the system, and is a playmaker. He was the best available cover FS, which we haven't had since ST died. This at least shores up a weakness for 3-4 yrs.
Can't understand why some are saying we should have done this last year. The Rams clearly overpaid for Atogwe and the proof is in the pudding, don't you think?
I think we did the right thing by not getting involved in a balloon bidding contract. Remember, we were trying to maintain a collective frugality campaign unlike the previous tag team of Snyder and Vinnie.
Atogwe is here and he comes with a reasonable contract. I don't think he will play out the 5 year contract but who cares, we have a respectable FS.
skinsfaninok
03-05-2011, 02:45 PM
What's the difference of getting him in '10 or now? He's a skin and we didnt give up anything for him. Im glad we waited
juskins
03-05-2011, 04:07 PM
I just don't agree with signing a 30 year old safety on a bad team. OJ is not the long term solution IMO. But he's an upgrade so it is what it is.
I don't think anyone or the FO is suggesting that Atogwe is a long term solution.
We need a stop-gap solution and the best FS out there is Atogwe. Sanders is too injury prone. Finding a gem in the rough is not going to happen; Moore, Horton and Doughty did not provide enough to resolve our dilemma at FS or SS.
R.I.P. S.T. 21
03-05-2011, 07:27 PM
I like it. But I still think we should go back to a 4-3. How do we go from top ten to almost last in a matter of one year with the same personel? And he definatley cant wear #21. Are we retiring that #?
mbedner3420
03-05-2011, 07:44 PM
I like it. But I still think we should go back to a 4-3. How do we go from top ten to almost last in a matter of one year with the same personel? And he definatley cant wear #21. Are we retiring that #?
I don't think they should go back to the 4-3. Just give it time. They need the right personel.
He won't have #21. The redskins don't officially retire numbers but they do unofficially.
vallin21
03-05-2011, 11:37 PM
Can't understand why some are saying we should have done this last year. The Rams clearly overpaid for Atogwe and the proof is in the pudding, don't you think?
I think we did the right thing by not getting involved in a balloon bidding contract. Remember, we were trying to maintain a collective frugality campaign unlike the previous tag team of Snyder and Vinnie.
Atogwe is here and he comes with a reasonable contract. I don't think he will play out the 5 year contract but who cares, we have a respectable FS.
How can you not understand? FS was a need last year . OJ was on the market last year. Most fans, including myself weren't sold on Moore as a Starting FS. Obviously this is a mute point, but OJ was on the market 3 days last June before the Rams re-signed him. And had we signed him last offseason don't you think he would've been an upgrade over Moore? That's the point some of us are making.
R.I.P. S.T. 21
03-05-2011, 11:46 PM
Thats what I didnt understand about the change. If you dont have the personel then why not make the change gradually as you get it. If albet haynseworthless didnt have that huge contract and a poopy attitude we could trade him for some quality 3-4 type guys.