2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.

to be fair Tyrod had a better completion pct. this year than Jake Lockers best year. Not really saying anything one way or another lol just thought it should be stated.

A 5th round project or bust doesn't set a franchise back as much as a 1st or 2nd round does when you have very few picks and too many holes to fill.

How many late round athlete qb's pan out? I can't think of any. Brady, Cassell, Schaub are the only established late round picks I can think of. All are guys with more heart than athletic ability. Also I can't think of any short athletic qb's that pan out. You need height. A project is one thing, a wasted pick is another.

How many late round athlete qb's pan out? I can't think of any. Brady, Cassell, Schaub are the only established late round picks I can think of. All are guys with more heart than athletic ability. Also I can't think of any short athletic qb's that pan out. You need height. A project is one thing, a wasted pick is another.

Brees and Vick should come to mind but, my point is this; if the reason the FO is loving Locker's atheleticism and mobility outside of the pocket, why risk a first or second round pick on him? Other than Locker's prototypical height, what projects him to be a better QB at the next level? I'm not starting a lovefest for Taylor, just being sensible. There's a lot of "too short" players in the league that where given a chance who have panned out. I'd put my money on Taylor against Locker competing for the starting job on the same team anyday. Let's see what happens...

My Mock First Round

1 - Newton
2 - Dareus
3 - Miller
4 - Green
5 - Peterson
6 - Quinn
7 - Gabbert
8 - Fairley
9 - Smith
10 - Trade with St. Luis - Jones
11 - Amukamara
12 - Locker
13 - Aldon Smith
14 - Trade - Dalton
15 - Mallet
16 - Kerrigan
17 - Jordan
18 - Watt
19 - Castanzo
20 - Heyward
21 - Taylor
22 - Liuget
23 - Jimmy Smith
24 - Clayborn
25 - Ayers
26 - Trade out of the first, Tennesee Ponder
27 - Wilkerson
28 - Solder
29 - Pouncey
30 - Carimi
31 - Williams
32 - ?

Saw an interesting Mock draft where we trade with New England to pick up the 28th and 33rd picks. I loved it. Its just got put on bleacher report

I hope and pray all this QB talk is just that.....TALK.

If we stay at #10 and don't wind up with JJ Watt, Cam Jordan, Von Miller (if he drops like Orakpo) or Quinn I will not be a happy camper.

Now here is a person who makes sense.

A 5th round project or bust doesn't set a franchise back as much as a 1st or 2nd round does when you have very few picks and too many holes to fill.I'm right there with you.

If we don't take a QB in the 1st 2 rounds I would be okay with taking Tyrod or Stanzi in the 5th (but they probably won't be there).

Tyrod is a raw QB that needs some developing and could learn for a season behind Rex/Beck and if he doesn't pan out no harm no foul w/ a 5th round QB prospect.

I bet if Tyrod was taller he would be a much higher rated QB prospect.

I think one thing that Tyrod has going form him in our organization is that Rex Grossman is the same height and he can funtion in this offense.

How many late round athlete qb's pan out? I can't think of any. Brady, Cassell, Schaub are the only established late round picks I can think of. All are guys with more heart than athletic ability. Also I can't think of any short athletic qb's that pan out. You need height. A project is one thing, a wasted pick is another.I'm not sure what 'athlete' has to do with it but off the top of my head here are some:

IIRC Matt Hasselbeck, Mark Brunell, Kyle Orton (who I believe started as rookie 4th round pick), Ryan Fitzpatrick, Marc Bulger, does Colt McCoy count?, David Garrard, Tony Romo (undrafted), Kurt Warner (undrafted), Jake Delohomme (undrafted), Aaron Brooks ?,

Brees and Vick should come to mind but, my point is this; if the reason the FO is loving Locker's atheleticism and mobility outside of the pocket, why risk a first or second round pick on him? Other than Locker's prototypical height, what projects him to be a better QB at the next level? I'm not starting a lovefest for Taylor, just being sensible. There's a lot of "too short" players in the league that where given a chance who have panned out. I'd put my money on Taylor against Locker competing for the starting job on the same team anyday. Let's see what happens...

One thing that seperartes Brees from other "short" QBs is that Brees has a very high release point.
His release makes him throw "taller" then his height.

Re:Other than Locker's prototypical height, what projects him to be a better QB at the next level?
Imo?
Elite arm stength, clean/quick release, sturdy frame, spent 2 years in a pro-style offense

I'm not sure what 'athlete' has to do with it but off the top of my head here are some:

IIRC Matt Hasselbeck, Mark Brunell, Kyle Orton (who I believe started as rookie 4th round pick), Ryan Fitzpatrick, Marc Bulger, does Colt McCoy count?, David Garrard, Tony Romo (undrafted), Kurt Warner (undrafted), Jake Delohomme (undrafted), Aaron Brooks ?,

An athlete is a tuck and run guy. A "project" who needs to be developed into a passer.

An athlete is a tuck and run guy. A "project" who needs to be developed into a passer.Plenty of college QB prospects need to be developed into an NFL 'passer'.

Its the way the league works the QB is a developmental position not a 1st year 'impact' position.

Tyrod played in more of a 'pro-style' offense then Newton, Gabbert, Dalton and Kaepernick.

I don't think Tyrod is a 'tuck and run guy' right now he may have been one in the past.

When you watch Tyrod now, you can see him going through his progressions. He runs when he's trying to make a play keeping his eyes downfield and remaining a passer for as long as possible (which is something he didn't always do).