celts32
04-21-2011, 11:09 AM
I don't see it like that. For me it's more along the lines of
High Floor High Ceiling
........okay no one.
Medium Floor, Medium to High Ceiling
Blaine Gabbert
Andy Dalton
Christian Ponder
Low Floor, High Ceiling
Kaepernick
Low Floor, Ridiculously High Ceiling
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Ryan Mallet
I agree with this and it's why I keep coming back to Locker. I want a shot at someone who can be great not just good. And in spite of all his troubles...I would take a shot at Mallet also becasue he has franchise QB talent...just not at #10.
CultBrennan59
04-21-2011, 06:35 PM
2011 NFL Mock Draft with Cam Newton, Marcell Dareus, more - Peter King - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/04/20/2011-nfl-mock-draft/index.html?eref=sihp)
CultBrennan59
04-21-2011, 06:50 PM
My Mock
What we should do?
10th pick Robert Quinn OLB
43rd pick Jerrell Powe NT
5th rounder Austin Pettis WR Boise St
5th rounder Mike Arkin G Missouri State
6th rounder Evan Royster RB Penn State
7th rounder Justin Rogers CB Richmond
7th rounder Alex Henery K Nebraska
7th rounder Chase Beeler C Stanford
What will probably happen but shouldn't IMO
10th Pick Jake Locker
43rd pick Brooks Reed
5th rounder Jarvis Jenkins DT/DE
5th rounder Sione Fua NT
6 Royster
7 A WR you've never heard of
7 Another TE for no reason at all
7 An OLineman that won't make the team
Landry44
04-21-2011, 08:37 PM
Why so serious? What is about Jake Locke'rs great play in lifting an 0-12 team to a bowl game win that you don't see? Was is his ability to make bigtime throws in key situations and outstanding accuracy outside the pocket and on the move, 'great presences', elite arm strength and playmaking ability, quick release, great leadership skills, tunring around an entire football program?
He didn't make anyone on his team better so how is it that he has great leadership skills? His team was sub 500 under his so called leadership. He has the ability(like many others) to make big throws but he rarely does. His accuracy is terrible that is why he had a 55% completion percentage. His whole college career has been mediocre at best. I have tons of evidence to support each one of these statements. Do you wish to challenge them?
Swarley
04-21-2011, 10:40 PM
how do you know he didnt make anyone on his team better? have you ever thought that players on his team made him worse than he truly is?
Lotus
04-21-2011, 10:43 PM
He didn't make anyone on his team better so how is it that he has great leadership skills? His team was sub 500 under his so called leadership. He has the ability(like many others) to make big throws but he rarely does. His accuracy is terrible that is why he had a 55% completion percentage. His whole college career has been mediocre at best. I have tons of evidence to support each one of these statements. Do you wish to challenge them?
I am not a fan of Locker. But he did take a winless team and make it a .500 bowl winner. To that end he did, in fact, make others around him better.
Dirtbag59
04-21-2011, 10:48 PM
I am not a fan of Locker. But he did take a winless team and make it a .500 bowl winner. To that end he did, in fact, make others around him better.
If they do draft him, we really have to hope that Shanahan can make another Plummer like miracle turn around, except this time he won't bail so soon, because Locker will be on the right side of 30....or the left....but the right side in terms of.....oh f**k it.
Still you look at Plummers numbers when he played at Arizona State (0 TD's and 9 Ints in 11 games during his second year) and for the Cardinals and you wonder how the hell did Shanahan turn him into a pro bowler +90 QB.
Jake Plummer College & Pro Football Statistics - Totalfootballstats.com (http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=3134)
Still it's a leap of faith to think that he can get the same kind of turn around with Locker.
Lotus
04-21-2011, 11:31 PM
If they do draft him, we really have to hope that Shanahan can make another Plummer like miracle turn around, except this time he won't bail so soon, because Locker will be on the right side of 30....or the left....but the right side in terms of.....oh f**k it.
Still you look at Plummers numbers when he played at Arizona State (0 TD's and 9 Ints in 11 games during his second year) and for the Cardinals and you wonder how the hell did Shanahan turn him into a pro bowler +90 QB.
Jake Plummer College & Pro Football Statistics - Totalfootballstats.com (http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=3134)
Still it's a leap of faith to think that he can get the same kind of turn around with Locker.
You are correct. And Texas-sized-ego Shanny might make that leap, for good or for ill.
Defensewins
04-22-2011, 01:56 AM
He didn't make anyone on his team better so how is it that he has great leadership skills? His team was sub 500 under his so called leadership. He has the ability(like many others) to make big throws but he rarely does. His accuracy is terrible that is why he had a 55% completion percentage. His whole college career has been mediocre at best. I have tons of evidence to support each one of these statements. Do you wish to challenge them?
Thank you Landry44 for bringing some reality back to this Jake Locker lovefest. I feel the same way you do about Locker. The more game footage I watch of Locker the more I dislike him. His highlight reel of big game winning plays are him running the ball. Look what happen to him in the Bowl game nearly got knocked unconscious when he ran the ball against Nebraska. He will get killed in the NFL if he runs like he did in college. He is not very bright for running with his head down.
Kind of reminds me of Patrick Ramsey, great guy, looks like your frat brother, tough, can take a hit, strong arm, but inaccurate. Just like Ramsey. One major difference is he can run and Ramsey could not.
Locker will not wake up one day and go from being inaccurate college Qb against lesser talent and suddenly transform into an accurate passer against MUCH better talent he will face in the NFL.
Locker is a project and a bit of a gamble. You do not draft a project with the #10 pick. That is a Cerratto move.
Terpfan76
04-22-2011, 01:57 AM
Sporting News War Room has Skins taking:
1) Castonzo
2) Locker
5) Pernell McPhee
5) Bruce Miller
6) Terrence Toliver
7) Sealver Siliga
7) Chris Stewart
7) Jeremy Ross
Castonzo and Locker? I'm all for it.