Andy Reid or Mike Shanahan? Eagles President takes shot at Shanny

If your counting that way doesn't Reid get 1 with GB.

I counting the superbowls only as the headcoach. If I counted that way then I would also count the superbowls for Shanny in San Fran.

For a Redskins fan, this will become relevant when Shanahan starts winning. I know this team is a huge challenge for anyone and it is a pretty uphill battle for Shanahan. It is great that Shanahan won 2 SBs and had success in Denver, but that won't mean squat if we end up having poor to mediocre seasons in Washington.

To me this sums up Mike Shanahan year one. He came in and changed a defense around cause HE thinks it would cause more turnovers. Fail 1. I saw a coach who let his son run the offense when he's suppose to be one of the best playcallers. Fail 2. I saw a coach who did a piss poor job communicating with the players. Fail 3. I saw a coach who made some bad personel moves. Fail 4. I saw a coach who let scrubs like Joey Galloway and Roydell Williams play. Fail 5.

Did you really expect Shanahan and company to come in and take a 4-12 team to the playoffs this year? Really?

I see a coaching staff that made some mistakes, yeah, but I also saw a coaching staff who came in and has established some discipline. I didn't like how Shanny handled the situation with McNabb, but overall, I believe the team is in the right direction. And, before you say anything about Kansas City turning things around in one year, there is a big difference. That team was a much younger team and it was Matt Cassel's second year in KC.

All good arguments, but it's not like teams don't get turnovers in a 4-3.

We didn't! :silly:

I guess this is Diss MS week

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where is all this coming from lately? Odd

where is all this coming from lately? Odd

Yeah no shit

I could really care less if he's a control freak or not. You can't tell me there aren't plenty of other successful coaches out there who aren't the same way.

I could really care less if he's a control freak or not. You can't tell me there aren't plenty of other successful coaches out there who aren't the same way.

The NFL is win now and what have u done for me lately... If MS has a good year and we would have finished 9-7, nothing would be said. Oh well the redskins are always in the negative light anyway

Did you really expect Shanahan and company to come in and take a 4-12 team to the playoffs this year? Really?

I see a coaching staff that made some mistakes, yeah, but I also saw a coaching staff who came in and has established some discipline. I didn't like how Shanny handled the situation with McNabb, but overall, I believe the team is in the right direction. And, before you say anything about Kansas City turning things around in one year, there is a big difference. That team was a much younger team and it was Matt Cassel's second year in KC.

Which is to say that essentially they didn't turn it around in 1 year, they have been buidling in the draft, particularly on D, and those players started to produce. M. Cassel in his 2nd year, maybe McNabb will have similar success in year 2? :)