Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011

So Andre Johnson isn't a better red zone option than Santana Moss?

So Malcolm Kelly isn't a better red zone option than Santana Moss?

So Malcolm Kelly isn't a better red zone option than Santana Moss?

Or Devin Thomas. Or Marko Mitchell. Or Brandon Lloyd...

U can't count MK guys he doesn't even play

U can't count MK guys he doesn't even play

That's the point that's trying to be made. Skill is more important than physical measurables. If we can get good value on a big bodied WR red zone guy then great, but it is more important to get good value than to reach for a perceived need. Someone that can get separation is better than just a big body.

Part of the reason Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas were drafted were because of fans consistently complaining about the fact that we had no tall receivers/red zone threats, despite their being much better prospects who have done much more. For as much crap as Dan Snyder gets, he actually sort of does listen to what everyone happens to complaining about at the moment.

So he got a guy who everyone knew was injury prone before the draft because at 6'4", he was one of the tallest wide receivers available, but for some reason picked up one year wonder Devin Thomas before him. And then, he picked a tall tight end in Fred Davis, even though he already had a starting tight end in Chris Cooley, who is also friggin' tall and was ALREADY a red zone threat.

This in a draft where Jordy Nelson, DeSean Jackson, Mario Manningham, Eddie Royal, Pierre Garcon, Stevie Johnson, Early Doucet...all these guys of various shapes and sizes who have had a lot more success than DT and MK. All in the name of finding the mythical "red zone threat", when really address needs other places would've benefited us more.

But alas, this thread is supposed to be about free agency.

...Heh-heh, wouldn't it be funny if DT ended up getting cut by the Giants and ended up back here?

Malcolm Kelly isnt a better anything.....

I never said you had to be big to score TDs guys lol I just said it helps.

Part of the reason Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas were drafted were because of fans consistently complaining about the fact that we had no tall receivers/red zone threats, despite their being much better prospects who have done much more. For as much crap as Dan Snyder gets, he actually sort of does listen to what everyone happens to complaining about at the moment.

So he got a guy who everyone knew was injury prone before the draft because at 6'4", he was one of the tallest wide receivers available, but for some reason picked up one year wonder Devin Thomas before him. And then, he picked a tall tight end in Fred Davis, even though he already had a starting tight end in Chris Cooley, who is also friggin' tall and was ALREADY a red zone threat.

This in a draft where Jordy Nelson, DeSean Jackson, Mario Manningham, Eddie Royal, Pierre Garcon, Stevie Johnson, Early Doucet...all these guys of various shapes and sizes who have had a lot more success than DT and MK. All in the name of finding the mythical "red zone threat", when really address needs other places would've benefited us more.

But alas, this thread is supposed to be about free agency.

...Heh-heh, wouldn't it be funny if DT ended up getting cut by the Giants and ended up back here?I completely agree re: red zone and height. The teams that are best in the red zone are the teams that are best in all other parts of the field.

Height does help in the red zone because of the mismatches it creates with smaller DBs...just like it helps when you're on your own 35 yard line. Mismatches are mismatches. The best mismatch you can have is being a more dominant football player than the guy you are lining up against. And thus, the best way to cash in TDs in the Red Zone is to have a bunch of dominant players, not a bunch of tall guys.

I completely agree re: red zone and height. The teams that are best in the red zone are the teams that are best in all other parts of the field.

Height does help in the red zone because of the mismatches it creates with smaller DBs...just like it helps when you're on your own 35 yard line. Mismatches are mismatches. The best mismatch you can have is being a more dominant football player than the guy you are lining up against. And thus, the best way to cash in TDs in the Red Zone is to have a bunch of dominant players, not a bunch of tall guys.

That's all I was trying to say..

I think it has more to do with the opponants CB's and how tall they are. If they are taller then our WR's then balls will get batted away or intercepted. We would be forced to run slants and curls. So it is nice to have tall WR's since most CB's are starting to come out 6' plus.