Was a Superbowl Flyover Worth the $

The cool thing is they probably left Va Beach around 5:30 and were back home by 7:30 and also includes doing the fly over. Man I'd love to fly in one of those jets.

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(army 545 million and the marines spend 1 billion).

Saden1 where did you get that information? I have to say I am a bit shocked to see someone say that the Marines, who have a history of doing more with less, would out spend the Army two times just for advertising. Also the Marines are the "Few and the Proud" because we are the smallest of all four branches of service. Not everyone can be a Marine.. Also their numbers have stayed steady at 212,000 since 2004. My son went to the recruiting office in August of 2009 to enlist. He spent 4 yrs Marine Corps option ROTC at his high school. They told him then because of being over filled that he had to wait until Feb. 2010 to go to MEPS (Military Enlistment Processing Station- for those who didnt know) and it was June 2010 before he would have been allowed to go to Parris Island. He was eventually disqualified because of a corrective knee surgery he had in 2006 that is/was by all accounts healed 100%. The boy runs 6 to 7 minute miles on a regular basis but wasnt allowed to join.. All that said it doesnt sound like the Marines are overly pressed to recruit anyone..

It's from the 2011 budget proposed by Obama and signed off on by congress. As for marines doing more with less, well, that's just a fantastic marketing slogan. Let's get real, they are well equipped, well trained, and well supported...more so than any other marine force on the planet.

I know you have to consider personnel cost cuts in the DoD & USCG and the real effects on Main St. USA of the current economy, but all services are meeting their recruiting goals. There are also some forced separations upcoming in the USAF officer ranks. I don't think there's any less desire to serve by the current generation.

Services Exceed 2010 Recruiting Goals (http://www.military.com/news/article/services-exceed-2010-recruiting-goals.html)

Have they raised their standards to what it was a decade ago? If you look at the numbers you will see they are barely meeting their goal which is a red flag to me. What are they doing? Stop recruiting once the goal is met? Set the goal lower? I mean, you got guys on 3 tours of involuntary duty out there so why stop recruiting? I am curious to see how these numbers related to previous recruiting decades.

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Thanks for the link. I'm probably going to FL in the next year and I'm going to check that out and see what it cost.

It's from the 2011 budget proposed by Obama and signed off on by congress. As for marines doing more with less, well, that's just a fantastic marketing slogan. Let's get real, they are well equipped, well trained, and well supported...more so than any other marine force on the planet.

Well Saden1 I wouldnt put a whole lotta faith in what I read of "Obama's budget proposal"... Hell if thats the case I bet $10 to a doughnut the additional spending is from HMX 1 (Marine One... Presidential Helo) being overused to take the Prez to the friggin golf course..

As for the Marines doing more with less.. its more than a slogan.... I can see you dont know much about the Military in the way of their traditions.. If you did youd know that when it comes to the "Luxuries" and "Perks" of military life... the Marine Corps always gets the shit end of the stick.. I was on kitchen duty back in 1989 (had to pull a 30 day rotation)... Staff Sgt told me to go to the freezer and get "the meat" on the shelf.. I went to get it and stamped clear as day on the side of the box in big bold letters were the words... 'REJECTED BY THE UNITED STATES ARMY"

Marines are well trained that is true... but we are trained with less... in Iraq when all this hoopla was being raised about "body armor"... the Marines were the last to recieve any. The Army got theirs first... Also the Marine Corps is the smallest of all four branches of the military so it is inherent in our nature to "do more with less" Our numbers are less than half that of the Army but we maintain up to 66% of our forces deployed at all times... to and including peace time..

Now when you compare us to other Marine Forces around the world... sure you are correct. We are better trained, better equipped and better supported.. My comparison was to that of other "US" branches of the military. If think for a second that we get all of the same luxuries, perks and amenities as the Army, Air Force, or Navy... you are sadly sadly misinformed...

I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this, but it is somewhat related. From what I understand, these are the responsibilities of all of the branches. Without a doubt there is overlap between nearly all the branches. Most branches have some sort of land, air, and sea forces available to them, and duties overlap a certain amount, but in relatively generic terms:

Marines: Push and capture new territory. They are the front line guys that secure locations.
Army: Retain the locations and start the rebuilding process (if necessary)
Navy/Air Force: Typically they are the support branches where when requested they will provide adequate sea/air power to support the Marines and the Army.

Obviously this is referring to the typical wartime activities. I know that the Air Force and Army have pretty big cyber outfits as well.

Kinda random, but this dude has the most awesome title ever:
Vice Admiral David J. "Jack" Dorsett
Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Dominance

I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this, but it is somewhat related. From what I understand, these are the responsibilities of all of the branches. Without a doubt there is overlap between nearly all the branches. Most branches have some sort of land, air, and sea forces available to them, and duties overlap a certain amount, but in relatively generic terms:

Marines: Push and capture new territory. They are the front line guys that secure locations.
Army: Retain the locations and start the rebuilding process (if necessary)
Navy/Air Force: Typically they are the support branches where when requested they will provide adequate sea/air power to support the Marines and the Army.

Obviously this is referring to the typical wartime activities. I know that the Air Force and Army have pretty big cyber outfits as well.

Kinda random, but this dude has the most awesome title ever:
Vice Admiral David J. "Jack" Dorsett
Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Dominance

This is a general perception that I canot stand because it is not entirely true. First off, the Army is always the first ones in along with the CIA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)


After the refusal of the Taliban regime to cease harbouring al-Qaeda, on October 7, 2001 the U.S. government launched military operations in Afghanistan. Teams from the CIA's Special Activities Division (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Activities_Division) (SAD) were the first U.S. forces to enter Afghanistan and begin combat operations. They were soon joined by U.S. Army Special Forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Army_Special_Forces) from the 5th Special Forces Group and other units from USSOCOM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSOCOM).[93] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)#cite_not e-92)[94] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)#cite_not e-93)[95] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)#cite_not e-ghostwars-94)


That is pretty much how every campaign starts off.

The Marines are more specialized for beach front assaults but as you said they do overlap. The Marines are used in a similar fashion as the Army's front line units AKA Combat Arms Units (Rangers, Infantry, Calvary, Armor and Artillery). The Army and Marines both go in and grab a piece of territory. Because the Marines are fewer in numbers they are not equiped to occupy it as the Army can. The Army uses its Combat Support and Combat Service Support units to occupy ground and rebuild as you suggested earlier.

Because the Marines are small and so specialized they always get the credit for being the first ones in because it is all that they do. In reality they were perhaps given the mission of pushing through one region while the Army's Combat Arms units were given the mission of pushing through several others.

I am not taking anything away from the Marines because I respect all of my brothers in arms. However, giving them total credit for being the "First" ones in is total crap because they were fighting either along side of us or had a separate simultaneous responsibility.

That is a very simplistic, yet comprehensiven explanation Angry, thank you. Doctrinally speaking the USMC is a quick strike, tenacious branch of our military. They however are, as Angry said specialized, lacking logistical assets. The Army is a stand alone branch of our military... possessing all of the assets to survive a prolonged war. Logistics, communication, intelligence, personnel services, medical and of course combat forces.