tryfuhl
02-03-2011, 01:21 PM
When Abe Pollin employed Wes Unseld year after year after year as his head coach/general manager and the team repeatedly failed to make the playoffs and had a piss poor scouting dept and no presence in Europe, and Unseld even said I probably don't deserve this job; everyone was all "wow, Pollin is such a loyal guy good for him" Snyder employs Cerrato and it's all "racquetball butt buddies" Why? Because people just dont care in DC as much about the Wizards as they do the Redskins. I have Wizards season tix, I have been to hundreds more Wizards games than any other team. I don't carevabout them half as much as I do the Skins.
Wizards fans had a reason to tolerate Unseld, not Cerrato.
tryfuhl
02-03-2011, 01:28 PM
Well some things are simply not true, like the Herzog situation. Some things didn't start with Snyder, like the questionable waiting list.
But my point with some of the other stuff is McKenna's just piling stuff on to show what a terrible owner Snyder is, but failing to acknowledge what became of certain situations, what corrections occurred, and failing to acknowledge that in some cases other successful teams have done the same. If I was his editor I would have said just focus on some things and drill down on them. I mean I get it, he was putting together a list and to do that he count get too detailed but a recurring theme is Snyder never learns, but in several examples he did learn. You wouldn't know it from the article though.
I don't see in the lawsuit where specifically he's calling for McKenna to be fired, though I suspect he certainly would be if he is shown to have deliberately falsely accused Snyder of some of the more egregious (felony) issues here.
I have no idea what you're talking about with the Zorn, smith thing.
Certainly he could've gone more concentrated but his A-Z thing seems to be conducive to more than less, for better or worse. There are a lot of things where he "learned" or at least "acknowledged" that a lot of the public wasn't privy to. Some of it doesn't even matter; not everyone gets the excuse of "well he learned" or "well he apologized" or similar, to me that doesn't exactly cross-out the wrongdoing. In the lawsuit I doubt that it would actually include a statement calling for the termination of his employment, I would think that that would be covered more so by the paper recognizing the liability of keeping him under employ.
The Zorn/Smith thing.. I had never heard that Snyder forced Saunders into the Gibbs regime though it did strike me as eerie that Gibbs all of a sudden said I need someone else to call plays/run the offense. But looking back at the Sherman Smith/Jim Zorn debacle I could easily believe that Saunders was definitely a Snyder/Cerrato doing.
Snyder wouldn't have pushed anything on Gibbs, he has way too much respect for him to do that.
Gibbs wanted Saunders in here because he felt he was taking on too much of a workload and he didn't want to go down that path again, plus Gibbs felt his offense was dated and needed to be "modernized".
tryfuhl
02-03-2011, 01:44 PM
That's what I heard at the time too. Even if it was Snyder's doing I wouldn't mind it, Saunders was the premier coordinator in the league. To me it's really a non-issue either way.
But while we're here, John Feinstein's view on the matter:
Feinstein On The Brink (http://www.feinsteinonthebrink.com/index.php?id=717436819717680623)
Back on topic yeah Snyder would have been wise to have just let this slide. But that's what happens when you have a giant ego, trust me I know. ;)
saden1
02-03-2011, 02:01 PM
Once again Snyder makes a poor choice. Not only that the little punk filed it in New York. He will lose the lawsuit...no one is scared of his money and army of lawyers.
Longtimefan
02-03-2011, 02:07 PM
Dan Snyder's lawsuit against Washington City Paper - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/documents/snyder-lawsuit.html)
Dirtbag59
02-03-2011, 02:08 PM
Oldie but goodie
What If Vinny Cerrato Never Left The Redskins? - SB Nation DC (http://dc.sbnation.com/2010/7/27/1589995/vinny-cerrato-redskins-general-manager-fired-never-left)
tryfuhl
02-03-2011, 02:11 PM
Dan Snyder's lawsuit against Washington City Paper - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/documents/snyder-lawsuit.html)
anti-Semitic?! oh boyyyyyyyyy
my comments are better left unposted here
freddyg12
02-03-2011, 02:13 PM
Oldie but goodie
What If Vinny Cerrato Never Left The Redskins? - SB Nation DC (http://dc.sbnation.com/2010/7/27/1589995/vinny-cerrato-redskins-general-manager-fired-never-left)
Man! This thread is really kicking up some old dirt! Fitting though, if this whole City Mag lawsuit goes forward there will be plenty more.