Ongoing CBA discussions

16 games is perfect there is no need for 18.

Just because I am stupid and really have not being following this very closely, when exactly is the final hour?

March 4 at 12:01am

What I can't stand about the preseason/18 game schedule logic is that they're trying to sell the idea that players won't be playing as much, thus safety isn't compromised. That isn't being said outright but Goodell's comments imply that.

We all know that starters & guys guaranteed roster spots are not playing much in preseason. Adding 2 real games will increase the risk of injury significantly. Or for some teams that have their playoff position locked by week 16, those two games will look like preseason because the coaches will be scared to play anybody. This is the beginning of a watering down of a good product.

What baffles me more is Hocky has similar violent hits, they have fist fights, getting hit with a heavy puck flying at 90 mph, and the fear of at any time bouncing their heads off the rock hard ice. Yet they play a ton more games.

I think everyone is also missing the point that though they wanted to add 2 more games, there was the thought that they would allow more players on the team as well. Instead of the 53 it was rumored that they might up the number if there were 18 games. Plus I don't really see the big deal. I understand the worry that 2 more games take the toll on the body but they could just as easily be injured after game 2 of the season so maybe the league should either turn the NFL into flag football or simply make it a televised computer game (Madden) so no one has to worry about injuries.

March 4 at 12:01am
ok so pretty much right around the corner.

Preseason sucks...its boring....its just a glorified training camp.
Gimme 18 games!!!

Only 27 percent favored the idea in an Associated Press poll released last week, and even fewer (18 percent) gave it a thumbs-up when Sports Illustrated’s Peter King solicited opinions on Twitter and received more than 1,200 responses.

I often wonder when people start sighting their "poll" percentages if the poll was done fair? I mean I never knew there was a poll and I'm in favour of the 18 game season. Plus I know the poll is supposed to simply give them an idea of numbers but I don't Twitter and is 1,200 responses an acturate assessment of what the actual populace wants?

I understand preseason, and the main reason for it, to be able to evaluate the young talent. But honestly why don't they just simply have more scrimages? or after the 1st two weeks of team drills and practice teams would be allowed to practice against each other with out the violent hits.

I think they know that the lockout is inevitable at this point. There is no point to have meetings when they already know that they can't change anything....sad.

But maybe, let's hear it for the Replacement Redskins?? Shane Falco as QB maybe???

I think your right. I thought I read somewhere that the owners didn't like the judge who decides the issue's because he leans towards the players more then the owners issue's. The owners want him removed and the players don't. I thought it said the owners want the Lockout cause then the Judge who is in place now would no longer have authority and a new Judge would have to be picked? I might have read it wrong but it sounded like the owners were wanting the Lockout in part for that reason unless the players agreed to picking a new Judge prior to the Lockout.

I know thats not the meat and potatoes of the Lockout but I wonder how much other stuff is in the CBA that after the Lockout occurrs would be null and void, and the owners want it removed so they are not binded by the old rules.

Honestly 16 weeks plus playoffs is enough for me. I am pretty much NFL burned out by this time of the year. By week 14 or so it starts feeling like your Sunday afternoon part time job. Maybe I am just at a stage in life where I have better things to do then waste 4 hours on a Sunday afternoon watching football, doesn't mean I am not a fan just means I have different priorities now.

ok so pretty much right around the corner.

3 weeks today

I think the 18 game season is being used as a bargaining chip for both a more advantageous money split for the owners and a rookie salary cap. The rookie wage scale would go a long way into reining in spending for rookies allowing more money to be spent on vets.

Personally, I'm anti 18 game season. There's no need for it. Hell, keep your 4 preseason games but don't force them on season ticket holders and charge a much reduced rate for them. Hell, they could easily cut it back to 3 games and be fine. Just get the deal done. You're at risk of really pissing off the people that actually do pay your checks, the fans.

Sources: NFL-Union talks canceled (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6107737)