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So goodell is now making $1? Man that ain't fun!
Lockout has begun

TO be honest not all that disappointed if there is no football, the main reason being I don't see us being a contender, and second the NFL is probably the most overhyped "product" on the planet, along with the NBA. It seems the more money that gets involved the less valuable the product. I rather watch a handful of well oiled football machines than a bunch of mediocre teams that limp into the playoffs. Now with Indy about to go down the tubes, and New England probably next, we will be stuck watching the Steelers/ Ravens or heaven help us, the Jets in the SB for the next few years maybe. God awful boring football. Hopefully the Saints can get it together and become a juggernaut again. God I really do miss the 80's!!!!!!!

Agreed Ruhskins.

Both sides simply played out their hands, and,in my opinion, tried to slight the other side rather than work together as reasonable and rational people might. When a federal mediator who has an 84% succes rate simply throws up his hands in dismay like Cohen did, you know either one or both parties just aren't interested in working it out.

And all those that you mentioned who are not the millionaire/billionaire manning/snyder people will see their livelihood and lives hurt.


League minimum is helluva lot better than anyobdy up here in Detroit is making working 40+ hours a week. As for those hotdog people, they will just work more concerts on Sundays. NFL.com will be experiencing some big time issues, but that doesn't affect too many Americans since the stuff is made in Asia anyway. As for the fans? THey almost deserve to be screwed. They have put themselves into a position to be taken for granted. Like I said in my previous post the more money that is made in the NFL seems to be directly inverted to the quality of the product put out on the field on most Sundays. Just sloppy ball being played, with the exceptions of only a small number of teams. Only team in the current NFL that could say touch the Cowboys or 49ers of the 90s is New England, and I am not sure if they could even hang. Sorry guys, I am just calling it as I see it. This explains why the NFL hype machine has been kicked into overdrive for the past decade, the lack of any real teams that are playing to the level they should be.

Holy Shit guys i didnt believe this would actually happen.

Millionaires vs Billionaires i guess. Now there is the lawsuit by Tom Brady, Manning, and Drew Brees against the owners. The players union has decertified, and in general all hell is breaking loose.

What happens next? can a court order lift the lockout as some have suggested? Does the NFL win the appeal? Is there going to be an absolute total work stoppage??

This HAD to happen I think. Even if a deal is made via mediation & the suits are dropped, both sides needed to take this step. The owners got themselves in this by agreeing to this deal in 06. The players don't want to give up something for no apparent reason. The courts, if only the threat, are the only way to decide this.

I am not unhappy about it. I think it could lead to some creative solutions & avert some bad ideas, like the 18 game season. If we come out of this w/the same CBA & an 18 game season, it will really have been a wasted opportunity IMO.

It's just so hypocritical. Talking about how the fans are tired of paying full price for preseason games as justification for an 18 game season. It's like damn, if only there was a way to not have fans pay full price for preseason games. Common sense solution, stop charging full price for preseason games. NFL owners solution, turn two games into full speed regular season games.

The real problem is money withdrawal. Owners have gotten so use to cashing in on those preseason games that they don't want to stop screwing the fans over at the register.

By the way can someone please explain this 18 game proposal that the NFL submitted recently? Because if I read it right on NFL Network it was that 11 and 12 would be 16 games and then the NFL Owners would decide on an extended season for 2013 and beyond. Please tell me I read it wrong. Heck please tell me that the NFL has given up on even pursuing an 18 game season. The fact that less practices and offseason contact drills is possibly being used as a bargaining chip for an extended season is sickening.

Haven't you assholes been presented with enough literature about how damaged these players are after they leave the game? Shouldn't less practice and contact drills be a given?

And another thing.

Owners are acting like they have a raw deal. What other major team sport can you sign a player to these days and only be responsible for around 30%-40% of the total value of a contract (and thats assuming you're at least an entrenched starter with pro bowl possibilities)? The Dodgers have to go to the court of law to prove that Manny was faking an injury just to get back a portion of his money. I don't know enough about the NBA to make a firm and fast statement but from what I have read releasing a player before his time is up is a pain in the ass once summer workouts are done. In the NFL they simply release you with minimal consequences. No arbitration

You don't have to worry about supporting a farm team. Sure maybe you make a couple of donations to schools with interesting prospects in hopes of getting an edge on draft day but the bottom line is you don't owe the NCAA anything for giving kids an edumacation into how to work the system.

What other league is able to charge millions for 30 seconds of air time?

First lockout of my life basically, I was born in 86 so I don't remember the last lockout.

First lockout of my life basically, I was born in 86 so I don't remember the last lockout.

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