Lotus
03-22-2011, 01:31 PM
The President does not need Congressional approval for peace-keeping operations, which is what the Libya action is. The President does need Congressional approval to go to war. There is a difference.
Further, the action in Libya was mandated by the UN, rather than being in violation of UN standards like some other American military actions.
hooskins
03-22-2011, 01:53 PM
first you believe and say ridiculous stuff all the time. Hard to tell when you are joking.
firstdown
03-22-2011, 02:45 PM
The President does not need Congressional approval for peace-keeping operations, which is what the Libya action is. The President does need Congressional approval to go to war. There is a difference.
Further, the action in Libya was mandated by the UN, rather than being in violation of UN standards like some other American military actions.
The UN does not have the power to give our president the OK to go to war. Please read your constitution. This is not a piece keeping mission this is a drooping bombs on a sovereign nation which IS THE SAME declaring war. Don you think Obama would do this if it was happening in China? No. Why? Because they can strike back and Lybia can't.
firstdown
03-22-2011, 02:48 PM
first you believe and say ridiculous stuff all the time. Hard to tell when you are joking.
So what do I believe?
Lotus
03-22-2011, 03:16 PM
The UN does not have the power to give our president the OK to go to war. Please read your constitution. This is not a piece keeping mission this is a drooping bombs on a sovereign nation which IS THE SAME declaring war. Don you think Obama would do this if it was happening in China? No. Why? Because they can strike back and Lybia can't.
You are confusing what is legal in Constitutional law with what is legal under international law.
The Libya adventure is being critiqued in Congress in terms of the Constitution.
The Iraq fiasco was critiqued for being illegal in terms of international law.
firstdown
03-22-2011, 03:50 PM
You are confusing what is legal in Constitutional law with what is legal under international law.
The Libya adventure is being critiqued in Congress in terms of the Constitution.
The Iraq fiasco was critiqued for being illegal in terms of international law.
My first care is that the president follows the constitution which is what he was sworn into to office to do. Then after he meets those guides then we could talk internetional law.
KLHJ2
03-22-2011, 04:43 PM
What national law did he break?
He did not declare a war and the last time I checked he was Commander in Chief. He can send the military to perform operations anywhere he wants to. He just cannot declare war without congressional approval. He did nothing wrong. Bush got away with far more.
12thMan
03-22-2011, 04:48 PM
Yeah, no laws were broken. Just a lot of politicking and postering from some old farts whose asses are on the line in 2012.
firstdown
03-22-2011, 04:57 PM
What national law did he break?
He did not declare a war and the last time I checked he was Commander in Chief. He can send the military to perform operations anywhere he wants to. He just cannot declare war without congressional approval. He did nothing wrong. Bush got away with far more.
You have declared war when you drop bombs on another nation.
Alvin Walton
03-22-2011, 04:59 PM
Peacekeeping mission?
:doh:
We're blowing up his tanks and his trucks and planes and troops and command centers so the rebels will be able to take over the country.
Thats not peacekeeping, that's asskicking.
It's almost like we are hired mercs for the rebels.