12thMan
03-20-2011, 04:01 PM
True, it's not the core issue and I'm sure no one here has lost sight of that. Still, it's relevant to the thread in terms of the "cost" of democracy. Or in this case removing a brutal autocratic regime who's time is up.
That said, casualties are and have always been a part of war. Always will be. I don't say that to be flippant, but this part of the decision making process.
firstdown
03-20-2011, 05:04 PM
Not unprovoked: Qaddafy struck first
Not illegal: the action was approved by the UN and is not in violation of principles of international law
This action is nothing like the unprovoked illegal action in Iraq of March 2003.
Really so the un now has control over who we have a war with. When did we change our Constitution and how did he strike first? Last I checked we struck him first.
firstdown
03-20-2011, 05:11 PM
Your right SS. I guess Obama did not want to be in town when starting his illegal war that is killing innocent people for oil.
Lotus
03-20-2011, 05:33 PM
Really so the un now has control over who we have a war with. When did we change our Constitution and how did he strike first? Last I checked we struck him first.
This is not the same as the Iraq war. This is much more like the '90's action in Kosovo.
Give it up, dude. Your partisan arguments do not apply here.
firstdown
03-20-2011, 06:07 PM
This is not the same as the Iraq war. This is much more like the '90's action in Kosovo.
Give it up, dude. Your partisan arguments do not apply here.
Partisan? I'm just applying the lefts standards to them. Whats wrong with that? I guess they are not against nation building any more either.
I notice you use a Bill Clinton war. LOL
Souldn't we be going after the Somalia Pirates that have actual attacked us several times.
firstdown
03-20-2011, 06:09 PM
True, it's not the core issue and I'm sure no one here has lost sight of that. Still, it's relevant to the thread in terms of the "cost" of democracy. Or in this case removing a brutal autocratic regime who's time is up.
That said, casualties are and have always been a part of war. Always will be. I don't say that to be flippant, but this part of the decision making process.
Did you also hold those views about Sadam? After all he killed alot more people then this guy.
Lotus
03-20-2011, 06:42 PM
Partisan? I'm just applying the lefts standards to them. Whats wrong with that? I guess they are not against nation building any more either.
I notice you use a Bill Clinton war. LOL
Souldn't we be going after the Somalia Pirates that have actual attacked us several times.
You introduced left vs. right. That's what makes it partisan. Others were just talking.
Since I am neither Republican nor Democrat, why would I not use an appropriate example from the Clinton days?
BTW I have no problem with holding the pirates accountable. When they attack Americans, their next residence should be in a US jail.
Alvin Walton
03-20-2011, 07:56 PM
You mean the unprovoked illegal war that Obama has started.
Dont you mean Bush?
Cause I heard the exact same phrase over and over years ago with his name tagged on it.
12thMan
03-20-2011, 08:04 PM
Did you also hold those views about Sadam? After all he killed alot more people then this guy.
Dude what in the Sam Hill are you talking about?
firstdown
03-20-2011, 09:15 PM
[QUOTE=12thMan;789843]Dude what in the Sam Hill are you talking about?[/Q
Hey don't bring Sam Hill into this.