Post Game Thoughts

I for one am getting sick of everyone mondy morning play calling on Gibbs. One minute people are saying he should call runs and in a ney york minute they are saying we should play the vertical game. Did any of you see the Colts game last yesterday where Manning had consecutive delay of games penalties and consistantly ran the play clock down same with Pennington and the Jets. It is not just a redskin thing. Everyone said how good the playcalling was in the Giants game yet we didn't do much different ran the class of the NFC to within 3 points withtthe excetpion of the Steelers closser than anyone else this year yet Gibbs sucks we need to get rid of Gibbs etc etc. Has any of you had the sucess Gibbs has had in his career? anyone here think they could do better than Gibbs? Then send your applications Dan Snyder care of Redskins Park hey you might get lucky.

Sure the loss is dissapointing but the last minute interception is a QB decision making error the kinds of things Ramsey has to get over but I can think of probably 30 or so OC might have gone for a pop in the end zone on 1-10 with less than 2 minutes left had the pass been made or gone incomplete we would not even be discussing this right now. Had we run it a few times and Portis fumbled or gone for a field goal and missed or even put the game into OT then lost then people on here would be yelling why didn't we go for a pop in the EZ.

The same things being said about Gibbs now were being said about Martz in his first year back. We have shown improved performance game after game sure it hurts to loose but y'know when you change all of your coaches in the off season it is to be exected you go through some growing pains...

TO did nothing of importance, other than fumbling in the red zone

Lemar was right, the Eagles couldn't run on the Redskins

I for one am getting sick of everyone mondy morning play calling on Gibbs. One minute people are saying he should call runs and in a ney york minute they are saying we should play the vertical game. Did any of you see the Colts game last yesterday where Manning had consecutive delay of games penalties and consistantly ran the play clock down same with Pennington and the Jets. It is not just a redskin thing. Everyone said how good the playcalling was in the Giants game yet we didn't do much different ran the class of the NFC to within 3 points withtthe excetpion of the Steelers closser than anyone else this year yet Gibbs sucks we need to get rid of Gibbs etc etc. Has any of you had the sucess Gibbs has had in his career? anyone here think they could do better than Gibbs? Then send your applications Dan Snyder care of Redskins Park hey you might get lucky.

Sure the loss is dissapointing but the last minute interception is a QB decision making error the kinds of things Ramsey has to get over but I can think of probably 30 or so OC might have gone for a pop in the end zone on 1-10 with less than 2 minutes left had the pass been made or gone incomplete we would not even be discussing this right now. Had we run it a few times and Portis fumbled or gone for a field goal and missed or even put the game into OT then lost then people on here would be yelling why didn't we go for a pop in the EZ.

The same things being said about Gibbs now were being said about Martz in his first year back. We have shown improved performance game after game sure it hurts to loose but y'know when you change all of your coaches in the off season it is to be exected you go through some growing pains...

I think you mean Vermeil, not Martz. But I hear what you're saying. This game plan was very similar to last week and last week showed that it can work

Unfortunately, being in Eastern Europe I only woke up early enough to catch the last 7 minutes. But having read about the game and seen those last critical minutes, I have a few thoughts to share.

First, I have this Redskins tie that I wear to work when the team wins. Well, today I'm wearing it anyway because I'm darn proud of our guys.

Second, as someone said earlier, this Skins team is the same team that earlier in the year couldn't beat the Browns and that kicked in the second half by the Eagles. And this is the same Eagles that mopped the floor with the Packers. I'd say 17-14 is very respectable performance and a performance that shows real improvement.

Third, we've got some real Redskins on this team. I wasn't certain earlier in the year, but now I am. And that gives me a lot of confidence for next year.

Fourth, Ramsey. The kid is a rookie in my mind. And like all rookies with big arms, he wants to gun it down field rather than read D's. Unfortunately, his first coach in the NFL encouraged that and engrained that trend. I give Patrick a lot of credit for making as much progress as he has in adapting to Gibbs' system. But, we're still going to see him make rookie mistakes, at least through the rest of this year. And, that INT was just that - a rookie mistake.

Finally, I continue to hope that with this game, despite it being a loss, people - especially people in the Skins front office - will see enough progress to accept that we have the basic core we need and that the last thing we need is another off-season of wholesale changes.

Cheers from Riga.

Bedlam and LRT, I agree with both of you guys. We're close, but we lost a tough one. The Eagles are good. We're getting better, but we're not there yet. No need to burn down the house and fire the lot and undermine Gibbs and all that. That's the sort of quick-fix panic that got us into trouble in the first place.

Let's win next week, and especially the week after that. That's the only way to fix things, IMHO.

JW, I agree. We're going in the right direction and a couple of wins (maybe even three?) would be a nice way to end the season and would give us some momentum for next year.

TO did nothing of importance, other than fumbling in the red zone

Lemar was right, the Eagles couldn't run on the Redskins

That makes me happy. I really, really despise TO. To my mind he's everything I dislike about the "modern" NFL - as opposed to the NFL of the 80s - wrapped up in one annoying person.

I for one am getting sick of everyone mondy morning play calling on Gibbs. One minute people are saying he should call runs and in a ney york minute they are saying we should play the vertical game.

So it's monday morning qb to wonder why the run was abandoned after success in the first half? Not sure if I'm one of the people you're targeting (just that it was written directly after mine), but I wasn't even talking about that last drive where rams threw the pick... Me and my friend (who's not even a skins fan, but had a vested interest in the spread) both saw the weakness in Philly's run D in the first quarter. Throughout the game, we were throwing things at the tube when they'd keep calling three straight passes after good runs.

But since you did mention the ramsey pick, I specifically told my friend after the timeout that no matter what, they should just give portis the ball three straight times and hope he breaks one b/c i still don't trust ramsey 100 percent. Does that make me a bad fan? No, it just means I'd rather take my chances with Portis fumbling over Ramsey throwing a game-killing pick. But I also see Ramsey progressing nicely throughout the game. But like you said, it's a learning curve. Nobody is saying they could coach better than Gibbs, but if sportswriters are allowed the ability to criticize, you bet fans are going to question things once in a while.

Aside from the result, I only have two complaints. THe playcalling was too passive at the wrong times. We punted from the Eagles 35 at one point - we didn't even try to force them offsides. We also punted in Eagles territory down ten on 4th and a foot. Those are bothquestionable calls in my book, regardless of how much faith you have in the defense.

As for the Ramsey pick, I thought it was a great playcall that was poorly executed. From my seats, I was watching that play develop. Cooley was open for a fifteen yard window that ended before the end zone. I love the aggressive playcalling in that situation, but if your opponents are ready for it, break off the route and throw elsewhere. Cooley seemed to realize he was heading into coverage and head toward the middle of the endzone before coming back for the ball, so either Patrick had tunnel vision and wanted that route, or he was trying to throw it away, and came up short. Either way, poor execution in the two minute drill.

By the way, brilliant timeout to force a booth review. Excellent move by Gibbs - it's a shame it didn't pan out.

I for one am getting sick of everyone mondy morning play calling on Gibbs. One minute people are saying he should call runs and in a ney york minute they are saying we should play the vertical game. Did any of you see the Colts game last yesterday where Manning had consecutive delay of games penalties and consistantly ran the play clock down same with Pennington and the Jets. It is not just a redskin thing. Everyone said how good the playcalling was in the Giants game yet we didn't do much different ran the class of the NFC to within 3 points withtthe excetpion of the Steelers closser than anyone else this year yet Gibbs sucks we need to get rid of Gibbs etc etc. Has any of you had the sucess Gibbs has had in his career? anyone here think they could do better than Gibbs? Then send your applications Dan Snyder care of Redskins Park hey you might get lucky.

Sure the loss is dissapointing but the last minute interception is a QB decision making error the kinds of things Ramsey has to get over but I can think of probably 30 or so OC might have gone for a pop in the end zone on 1-10 with less than 2 minutes left had the pass been made or gone incomplete we would not even be discussing this right now. Had we run it a few times and Portis fumbled or gone for a field goal and missed or even put the game into OT then lost then people on here would be yelling why didn't we go for a pop in the EZ.

The same things being said about Gibbs now were being said about Martz in his first year back. We have shown improved performance game after game sure it hurts to loose but y'know when you change all of your coaches in the off season it is to be exected you go through some growing pains...
Amen! I'm in way total agreement here. And as far as an OC for next year I say DS hires our own Daseal.