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SkinzWin 01-25-2011, 01:57 PM You have so many kids coming out of school early, I believe 2nd rounders are almost like 1st rounders this year. I'd love to pick up another 2nd via trade or trading down. Of course, easy for us to say this over and over. If we do pick up one or two additional picks, Hankerson might be a steal in the 2nd. I know WR is not the highest priority. Of course I'd rather pick up at least 1 OL and 1 DL prior to going elsewhere. Anyways..
Colin Kaepernick, Leonard Hankerson, Jake Locker updates from Senior Bowl practice - NFL - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/24/senior.bowl.monday/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_sports)
Leonard Hankerson/WR/Miami: Hankerson proved to be a handful for whomever attempted to cover him. He continually created separation and beat multiple cornerbacks deep to make the downfield catch. Hankerson did not drop a pass all day and made several difficult receptions in practice.
If he is so heralded at the senior bowl so far, why is he not already considered a 1st round value? I am always wary of people who put too much stock into one event like the senior bowl, shriners game, or even the combine. You can prepare for a test like at the combine, but mastering that doesn't always make you the best at your position on the field.
SmootSmack 01-25-2011, 01:59 PM With the #10 overall pick, I'm looking to take the best player. I'm not going to get suckered into just thinking "well, we need to build our OL so let's just take a lineman here even if he doesn't need to be drafted this high"
Chico23231 01-25-2011, 02:03 PM With the #10 overall pick, I'm looking to take the best player. I'm not going to get suckered into just thinking "well, we need to build our OL so let's just take a lineman here even if he doesn't need to be drafted this high"
I like to think its the best player availible at current needs, so a mix of the both. DL, OL, QB, LB, WR or RB.....damn thats a sh*t ton of needs
SmootSmack 01-25-2011, 02:04 PM I like to think its the best player availible at current needs, so a mix of the both. DL, OL, QB, LB, WR or RB.....damn thats a sh*t ton of needs
You said it
redsk1 01-25-2011, 02:06 PM If he is so heralded at the senior bowl so far, why is he not already considered a 1st round value? I am always wary of people who put too much stock into one event like the senior bowl, shriners game, or even the combine. You can prepare for a test like at the combine, but mastering that doesn't always make you the best at your position on the field.
I believe he was projected as a 2nd rounder. Of course, projections are just that. You can't put too much emphasis on one day, one event, etc. The guy is a big time talent though even prior to today. Big guy, who's really talented. I don't know sh** though. I've seen him play a few times and he's performing well in SB practices. Maybe worth a look..
Chico23231 01-25-2011, 02:07 PM You said it
So it is outside of TE...lolololol Best player available.:doh:
redsk1 01-25-2011, 02:58 PM I like to think its the best player availible at current needs, so a mix of the both. DL, OL, QB, LB, WR or RB.....damn thats a sh*t ton of needs
I think I/we are hesitant on the best player available method due to Vinny's philosophy. It's probably a good philosophy but unfortunately Vinny couldn't scout well enough/draft well enough to give us good results.
But I do agree w/ the method. If there's no OL/DL that grade out, go w/ the best available. Since we have a need at almost every position it should be easy.
Terpfan76 01-25-2011, 03:05 PM If he is so heralded at the senior bowl so far, why is he not already considered a 1st round value? I am always wary of people who put too much stock into one event like the senior bowl, shriners game, or even the combine. You can prepare for a test like at the combine, but mastering that doesn't always make you the best at your position on the field.
The War Room at The Sporting News has Hankerson as a first rounder.
"Bottom line: Hankerson is a two-year starter at receiver for the Hurricanes. He does not have any ability or production as a return man for special teams. He is a first-year starter as a pro, provided that he can improve his route-running consistency."
SportingNews.com - Pro Football War Room (http://warroom.sportingnews.com/nfl/draft/2011/players/10128.html)
They have him rated as the 13th overall player in their top 99.
I also think he could be another Andre Johnson type receiver with his combination of size, strength and speed. He's not as fast as Johnson or as polished, but I really think he could be an elite wideout early in his career.
I'm not an insider with espn.com so if anyone has their scouting report, that would be nice.
skinsfan69 01-25-2011, 03:23 PM I guess you think that Grosman will ride us to the Superbowl. Or Maybe Beck? Until we get a QB, we will be medicore at best. The only sure way to get a QB is to keep drafting high till you get one. You dont have a chance untill you have one, so why worry about other pieces untill you have one in place.
Everything I'd heard about Locker is...great athlete, will probably blow up at the combine, but simply not a skilled enough pure passer to cut it in the NFL. If he can't consistently shread Pac Ten defenses then I'm not sold that he can be good enough to be a passer in the NFL. Therefore I see no reason to take this guy in the first two rounds.
Let's also realize that this team isn't going to be competing for a Super Bowl for several more years, regardless who's playing QB.
skinsfaninok 01-25-2011, 03:27 PM Everything I'd heard about Locker is...great athlete, will probably blow up at the combine, but simply not a skilled enough pure passer to cut it in the NFL. If he can't consistently shread Pac Ten defenses then I'm not sold that he can be good enough to be a passer in the NFL. Therefore I see no reason to take this guy in the first two rounds.
Let's also realize that this team isn't going to be competing for a Super Bowl for several more years, regardless who's playing QB.
In all fairness they are saying the same about Tebow, and he looked pretty damn good in 2 starts this yr
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