Is locker going in the first or second?

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Dirtbag59
01-25-2011, 11:57 PM
All I want to know is weather or not he's tough enough to stay in a game and play with a grade 2 MCL tear/sprain. Sure it's an injury that takes players out for around a month but thats only because those wussy liberal natzis done be makin the rules.

juskins
01-26-2011, 12:13 PM
Not that you asked but here's my view about Locker:
If we can we agree that every QB's accuracy is effected when they're under pressure?
And we can we also agree that its harder to throw on the move then in a clean pocket?
Then the question becomes how come Locker can be very accurate on the move yet appears less accurate from the pocket?

I think Mayock describes Locker's issues best here:


From watching a few Washington games my impression of Locker is that his OL wasn't good and behind a better OL he would provide the best of both worlds in/out of the pocket.

I would love for him to be available in the 2nd but i doubt he'll be there.



I don't think you can blame it on his OL, totally. The first day of the Senior Bowl practice he was having those same issues. His second practice day was better. Having natural ability and not putting it to use is as bad as drafting a lesser talented QB further into the draft.

Defense needs addressing more so than a QB in the first or second round.

Terpfan76
01-26-2011, 12:13 PM
yeah keep in mind with locker that he played with a crappy OLine and crappier receivers much like Jay Cutler.

I think he has a lot of potential in this offense, and reminds me of a Donovan McNabb-type QB.

I'm hoping for better than McNabb lol... More of a poor mans Steve Young is my hope.

Lotus
01-26-2011, 01:26 PM
All I want to know is weather or not he's tough enough to stay in a game and play with a grade 2 MCL tear/sprain. Sure it's an injury that takes players out for around a month but thats only because those wussy liberal natzis done be makin the rules.

Agreed. If you can't play with a grade II MCL tear, you're an unwanted pussy.

SmootSmack
01-26-2011, 01:32 PM
Kiper likes Newton to Redskins | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/01/kiper-likes-newton-redskins)

I don't agree with all that Kiper says, but there you go

30gut
01-26-2011, 03:19 PM
I don't think you can blame it on his OL, totally. The first day of the Senior Bowl practice he was having those same issues. His second practice day was better. Having natural ability and not putting it to use is as bad as drafting a lesser talented QB further into the draft.

Defense needs addressing more so than a QB in the first or second round.

I'm not blaming his OL but stating that they're not good is pretty much a fact.
I think if Locker played behind Stanford's OL he wouldn't have these question marks.
And Locker wasn't the only QB that was off target.
I think he used every bit of ability to take that Washington team to a bowl game.

warriorzpath
01-26-2011, 03:41 PM
Yeah, pretty much. Patrino is still looking for his own version of Aaron Rodgers at the pro level. Unfortunately the closest he's gotten is Jake Plummer. Other Petrino coached QB's include Dave Ragone, Stefan LeFors, Chris Redman, and Brian Brohm many of whom serve as poster childs for why teams can't rely on using mid round draft picks to find franchise QB.

Lol in fact I'm convinced, if Chris Redman was coming out in this draft he would have a following that would make both Andy Dalton and Kellen Moore jealous, well maybe not Kellen Moore but certainly Andy Dalton. I mean if I told people that there would be a QB available as late as the third round with four years of starting experience in a pro-like system with 29 TD passes each of the last two years paired with 15 and 13 INT's as well as a 71% and 65% completion percentage (not to mention 4,042 and 3,647 yards (http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=3236) during his last two seasons), well safe to say the man crushes would be flying left and right.

Which actually begs the question.....why the hell was Chris Redman a third round pick in the first place? I mean I know he went on to be a bust but as a prospect he certainly seems like someone that should have fetched a first round grade.


This is the perfect example of why you don't use stats as the main reason in personnel decisions.

Good numbers help get attention to good players, but nfl teams should use stats to help decide AFTER evaluating the film on players.

Longtimefan
01-26-2011, 03:44 PM
Locker has a good head on his shoulders, but he threw a lot of INTs the past two years, and the bowl game against Nebraska this season he won with his feet and not his arm. To me he is an above average college QB, and nothing that should garner the lovefest he is.

Redskins Insider - Redskins talk with Jake Locker (join the crowd) (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/nfl-draft/redskins-talk-with-jake-locker.html?wprss=redskinsinsider)

The Owner
01-27-2011, 06:39 AM
What's interesting about this years' draft is that it reminds me of the 2005 draft. I think Locker is a late first round pick. I think the skins are high on him, however I don't think we will spend our number 10 pick on him. What I think could happen is that we draft Von Miller at 10 and wait to see if Locker drops around 20 or so then we trade into the first round- give up our 2nd and a first from next year- and draft Locker. Similar to what we did with Campbell in 2005.

Chico23231
01-27-2011, 08:32 AM
What's interesting about this years' draft is that it reminds me of the 2005 draft. I think Locker is a late first round pick. I think the skins are high on him, however I don't think we will spend our number 10 pick on him. What I think could happen is that we draft Von Miller at 10 and wait to see if Locker drops around 20 or so then we trade into the first round- give up our 2nd and a first from next year- and draft Locker. Similar to what we did with Campbell in 2005.

My preference would be just to trade back in the first if the Shannys are hell bent on grabbing an average QB prospect...whether its locker, newton, gabbert, etc. I know its easier said than done. Miller would be a great pick at 10, but the more i here about him the more i hear he could be a top 5 pick. To give up a first next year with a better QB crop coming out next year, why wouldnt we just be patient? the more things change, the more they stay the same...

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