As Is 2 Round Dream Draft

There have been many passionate posts here for one QB or another, some quoting experts and draft gurus. If there is one thing that the McNabb experiment proved to me is we need to build this team from the ground up, from the inside out first. Smoot mentioned that Ponder could some day be a game manager. I thought to myself that there's no way we need a manager, let's get a guy who can drive 90 yards down the field in 2 minutes. Then I realized we did have that guy last year and he couldn't get it done either. Pass rushing end in the 1st and center in the second.

When did I say he could some day be a game manager?

Dirtbag-What I had said was there's buzz about the Skins taking Quinn, but my gut says Von Miller

After re-reading your post Smoot, I misinterpreted what you were saying. You did say that he was "not" merely a game manager...... My bad.

I see Ponder as an accurate, extremely intelligent, mobile, and creative QB. Others have stronger arms but his is strong enough. He also is tough and a good leader. The knocks against him seem to be arm strength (which can be developed somewhat) and sometimes poor decisions (which can be rectified by film study and his own native intelligence).

Ponder is so intelligent that he can be one of those QB's who is successful by outsmarting the defense.

I'm not saying that Ponder is great. But in a weak QB class, I see him as the most likely to be successful, at least in a Shanny offense.

So, why do you not see him as a starter?



Your analyze of him is inflated with hopes and wishful thinking on your part. QBs from Florida universities frighten me.

In fact, this is what CBS Sports says of Ponder: "The biggest concern at this point might be his struggles remaining on the field. While Ponder has been impressive when healthy, he was unable to finish either of the past two seasons due to multiple injuries to his throwing arm."

The CBS Sports critique also agreed with you about his intelligence, but the fact that his arm strength is suspect to make all the NFL throws could be a negative and earn him a selection in the middle rounds of the draft.

If he indeed has had several injuries to his throwing arm, that in itself, makes me leary. Honestly, what about you?

Your analyze of him is inflated with hopes and wishful thinking on your part. QBs from Florida universities frighten me.

In fact, this is what CBS Sports says of Ponder: "The biggest concern at this point might be his struggles remaining on the field. While Ponder has been impressive when healthy, he was unable to finish either of the past two seasons due to multiple injuries to his throwing arm."

The CBS Sports critique also agreed with you about his intelligence, but the fact that his arm strength is suspect to make all the NFL throws could be a negative and earn him a selection in the middle rounds of the draft.

If he indeed has had several injuries to his throwing arm, that in itself, makes me leary. Honestly, what about you?

His injuries are a concern that I should have mentioned. Every QB this year, though, seems to have some major concern. I didn't say that Ponder is unblemished.

Injuries are a concern but it all depends on how he recovers. Sam Bradford injured his shoulder his last year in college but cam back just fine. Alternatively, Matt Stafford was pretty much injury-free in college but has been sidelined a lot so far in the NFL. Being injured, or being injury-free, may or may not project to the NFL.

A positive which I failed to mention is that Ponder has considerable experience working under center, unlike some other candidates.

The more research I do, the more I'm warming to the idea of taking Cam Newton. This guy has Randall Cunningham potential (Eagles Randall & Vikings Randall, but simultaneously). He's film is awesome and his interviews are smooth. I know there is a bust risk, but the BOOM factor may be worth it.

That being said, I have reserved a one-way ticket for a seat on the Jake Locker bandwagon.

1st DB Prince Amukamara Nebraska

2nd DT Stephen Paea Oregon State

1st DB Prince Amukamara Nebraska

2nd DT Stephen Paea Oregon State

I think it will be a big mistake if we fail to address the outer defensive positions in the first two rounds. We need to either draft an OLB or DE in round 1 or 2. We need an elite rusher who can take pressure off Orakpo.

I think it will be a big mistake if we fail to address the outer defensive positions in the first two rounds. We need to either draft an OLB or DE in round 1 or 2. We need an elite rusher who can take pressure off Orakpo.

SkinzWin and I are both on the same train. A pass rusher from the QB's blind side and a center. I wanted Heyward, but after looking at Von Miller.....he'll yeah!

SkinzWin and I are both on the same train. A pass rusher from the QB's blind side and a center. I wanted Heyward, but after looking at Von Miller.....he'll yeah!

There ya go. Now all we need to do is to recruit other Skins fans to join our cause to put pressure on the drafting personnel to do as we say, you know, since we have zero influence on the draft outcomes and a no voice in the decision making process... LOL, but its fun anyway. HTTR.

Initially, I wanted to go defense at #10 and then got into the QB need thing. But now, I am back to my senses and realize that defense is the way to go at #10. Especially if we are serious about running the Steelers defense.

Von Miller might go before we pick and the sad thing about it, he might go to a 43 defense like Buffalo runs. He looks like he's better suited for the 34 defense because of his speed. If that's the case we have to think out of the box to get role players at OLB to set up a blue chip NT. There are good OLBs in this draft, but none of them have Miller's speed.