Handicapping Trading Partners for Haynesworth and McNabb

I don't think Haynesworth "giving back money" means that it lands in Danny Boy's pocket. I think those checks are cashed and those are sunk costs. What Haynesworth may agree to do is to take less money in the remaining years of his contract such that he is less burdonsome from a salary point of view to the team that might seek to acquire him. His salaries in those final years are not trivial sums of money!

Even so, I do not think there will be a herd of GMs milling around outside the doors at Ashburn begging to have "rights of first refusal" on any deal involving Big Al. Most other GMs know that Mike Shanahan would greatly prefer not to have Big Al on the team - - whether or not he is playing or is on the bench or is inactive every other week. I suspect the bidding starts with a 6th round pick this year and a contingent 6th/7th next year.

McNabb's market value could be a lot more - - so long as there is no more overt dismissal of McNabb by the Shanahans. Miami needs a QB upgrade if they hope to compete in the AFC East; SF needs a QB upgrade no matter what; if Seattle loses M. Hasselbeck, they need QB help too; Arizona has three hugely mediocre QBs on their roster at the moment; in Minnesota, Joe Webb is at least a year of learning/study away from being a decent NFL QB; Cincy may or may not remain satisfied with Carson Palmer; Tennessee might be in the QB market; Denver might lose K. Orton. PLUS, never rule out Al Davis when it comes to a QB who can throw the long ball...

The key to getting something of value for McNabb is twofold:

1. There has to be a plausible sense that more than one team is actively engaged in putting togfether a deal for him.

2. The rest of the league's GMs cannot have the sense that the Shanahans simply cannot wait to have him put his house on the market here in the DC area.

Neither of these conditions will be easy to create - - but if the Skins hope to get value for McNabb, they are going to have to do it convincingly.

, so that leaves New Orleans. I could see him going there but will they be will to part way with a 3rd rounder? I doubt it. He's damaged goods IMO.


Remember, Gregg Williams and the whole Lavar Arrington fiasco? He benched his ass because he didn't want to do the duties he was supposed to preform, so no way in hell he's going to take on AH knowing he'll do the same thing.

Remember, Gregg Williams and the whole Lavar Arrington fiasco? He benched his ass because he didn't want to do the duties he was supposed to preform, so no way in hell he's going to take on AH knowing he'll do the same thing.

I would say the chances of NO are slim to none and slim just pulled up outta town.

If you recall Dale Lindsey was also not a LA fan by any means.

A reminder, after he spent over 4 mil to buy his way outta DC. A flashback.

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I don't think Haynesworth "giving back money" means that it lands in Danny Boy's pocket. I think those checks are cashed and those are sunk costs. What Haynesworth may agree to do is to take less money in the remaining years of his contract such that he is less burdonsome from a salary point of view to the team that might seek to acquire him. His salaries in those final years are not trivial sums of money!

Even so, I do not think there will be a herd of GMs milling around outside the doors at Ashburn begging to have "rights of first refusal" on any deal involving Big Al. Most other GMs know that Mike Shanahan would greatly prefer not to have Big Al on the team - - whether or not he is playing or is on the bench or is inactive every other week. I suspect the bidding starts with a 6th round pick this year and a contingent 6th/7th next year.

McNabb's market value could be a lot more - - so long as there is no more overt dismissal of McNabb by the Shanahans. Miami needs a QB upgrade if they hope to compete in the AFC East; SF needs a QB upgrade no matter what; if Seattle loses M. Hasselbeck, they need QB help too; Arizona has three hugely mediocre QBs on their roster at the moment; in Minnesota, Joe Webb is at least a year of learning/study away from being a decent NFL QB; Cincy may or may not remain satisfied with Carson Palmer; Tennessee might be in the QB market; Denver might lose K. Orton. PLUS, never rule out Al Davis when it comes to a QB who can throw the long ball...

The key to getting something of value for McNabb is twofold:

1. There has to be a plausible sense that more than one team is actively engaged in putting togfether a deal for him.

2. The rest of the league's GMs cannot have the sense that the Shanahans simply cannot wait to have him put his house on the market here in the DC area.

Neither of these conditions will be easy to create - - but if the Skins hope to get value for McNabb, they are going to have to do it convincingly.

If you're right and the bidding for AH starts with a 6th and a contingent 6th/7th next year, I think the Skins will probably keep him. I just don't think that Mike Shanahan will give him what he wants - his outright release. The idea of AH strolling out with bags full of money and the Skins getting nothing for him, after all that's happened, probably wouldn't seem right to Shanahan.

Your thoughts on McNabb make sense to me, for the most part.

If you're right and the bidding for AH starts with a 6th and a contingent 6th/7th next year, I think the Skins will probably keep him. I just don't think that Mike Shanahan will give him what he wants - his outright release. The idea of AH strolling out with bags full of money and the Skins getting nothing for him, after all that's happened, probably wouldn't seem right to Shanahan.

Your thoughts on McNabb make sense to me, for the most part.

This would be such a terrible idea. I just can't understand why the team doesn't just cut their losses. Get at least a draft pick, but just get rid of this guy.

This would be such a terrible idea. I just can't understand why the team doesn't just cut their losses. Get at least a draft pick, but just get rid of this guy.

Pride. Pride and ego. Pride and ego, and perhaps a scoatch of stubbornness.

Pride. Pride and ego. Pride and ego, and perhaps a scoatch of stubbornness.

Shanahan stubborn or arrogant? Never! :)

I guess Haynesworth is more tradeable than I thought. Knew McNabb and Hall were, didn't realize Big Al could be too

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I think getting value for Haynesworth and McNabb is going to be the defining moment of Bruce Allen's career here...at least as long as Shanahan is in the picture.

And this is one of the few things I unconditionally trust our front office on: I know they will play the market correctly and get the best deal for these veterans. Problem is, of course, it's unlikely we'll be allowed to trade them before the 2011 draft.

Just trade them my god I'm tired of hearing this shit