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Terpfan76 01-21-2011, 03:42 PM Newton, but i think someone will draft him before us.
I live in Settle. People here don't love Locker and with just reason. He is just like Clausen, can't win games, too many missed plays.
I think the comparison to Clausen is completely inaccurate. Clausen had some of the most talented players in the nation on his offense and he couldn't get it done. Some of that may be coaching, but there is no way you can accurately compare the two. Locker didn't play with a 1/3 of the talent that Clausen did. I still believe that Clausen may develop into a top qb because he does have all the skills needed, we'll just have to see if he's given the chance and if he works hard enough to earn it.
SmootSmack 01-21-2011, 04:11 PM I think the comparison to Clausen is completely inaccurate. Clausen had some of the most talented players in the nation on his offense and he couldn't get it done. Some of that may be coaching, but there is no way you can accurately compare the two. Locker didn't play with a 1/3 of the talent that Clausen did. I still believe that Clausen may develop into a top qb because he does have all the skills needed, we'll just have to see if he's given the chance and if he works hard enough to earn it.
Didn't Clausen's ND offense put up over 30 points six times last year, only to lose five times because the defense gave up more, or something like that?
Terpfan76 01-21-2011, 04:31 PM Didn't Clausen's ND offense put up over 30 points six times last year, only to lose five times because the defense gave up more, or something like that?
They put up 30+ 8 times in 2009 and lost 4 of those games. Yeah, you're right, ND's defense that year was horrid to say the least, at least as far as points allowed go. Clausen has a ton of talent, but to compare Locker and his production is just not a good comparison due to the level of talent each team had. Considering how terrible the Panthers talent level currently is on offense, how could anyone expect much from Clausen.
skinsfaninok 01-21-2011, 10:11 PM I wish we could have this guy back.. Beastmode
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30gut 01-21-2011, 10:37 PM I've been doing some intense highlight/lowlight film watching on the big quarterbacks including, Cam Newton, Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, and Ryan Mallett,. Here are my breakdowns.
Blaine Gabbert:
Comparison: Joe Flacco
Jake Locker:
Comparison: A poor mans Aaron Rodgers
Ryan Mallett
Comparison: Matt Stafford with less mobility and accuracy.
Cam Newton
Comparison: Very unique. High end accuracy, great running threat, has it all.
Good breakdowns IRM
In general i think its tough to make comparisons to NFL players but for what its worth here's my thoughts on your comparisons.
Gabbert's game and the way he throws the ball reminds me of Carson Palmer (pre-injury).
Locker reminds me of a cross between a more athletic and mechanically sound version of Cutler (w/ less arm strength) and more athletic version of Matt Stafford.
Ryan Mallett reminds me of quicker thinking Joe Flacco w/ a dash of Phillip Rivers attitude.
Newton reminds me of a bigger, mentally stable, more fundamentally sound bigger version of Vince Young.
skinsfaninok 01-21-2011, 10:48 PM I'm still not high on Gabbert saw him play quite a bit this season and has very avg downfield accuracy, good arm but really not worth top 10 pick.. In fact I bet he slips down in the draft after the combine.
I will say Gabbert has good potential though, I believe at one point he was the number 1 QB in the nation when recruited.
I'd take locker only if we can trade down around 18 ish.
At 10 if Cam is there, we should take him.. He loves the game of football and has potential out of this world.
IMHO I'd rather draft Some speed at LB at 10 but we all know shanny loves QBs
Terpfan76 01-22-2011, 12:46 AM I will say Gabbert has good potential though, I believe at one point he was the number 1 QB in the nation when recruited.
Scout.com had him ranked as the #7 QB in his class. Rivals however had him as #1 so take your pick.
I say we wait for Danny O'Brien :D lol
htownskinfan 01-22-2011, 08:20 AM trade the pick to the Eagles for Kolb,sign Vince Young as backup
cdskins26 01-22-2011, 09:35 AM Here are some numbers i would assess to the top 4 qb's in this draft: Please edit as seen fit.
Jake Locker:
Odds at being a 10-12 year starter: 1:4
Odds at flaming out or becoming a Campbell-like journeyman: 1:3
Time needed to sit before ready to start: 8 weeks-1 season.
Ryan Mallett:
Odds at being a 10-12 year starter: 1:3
Odds at flaming out or becoming a Campbell-like journeyman: 1:3
Time needed to sit before ready to start: 1 Season at most.
Blaine Gabbert:
Odds at being a 10-12 year starter: 1:4
Odds at flaming out or becoming a Campbell-like journeyman: 1:2
Time needed to sit before ready to start: Immediately to 1 season.
Cam Newton:
Odds at being a 10-12 year starter: 1:2
Odds at flaming out or becoming a Campbell-like journeyman: 1:3
Time needed to sit before ready to start: 1-2 seasons.
SkinzWin 01-22-2011, 09:38 AM trade the pick to the Eagles for Kolb,sign Vince Young as backup
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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