Rifts between Shanahan and Snyder?

Shanahan inherited the AH problem and let's be honest, AH was a problem long before Shanahan showed up. He just got stuck with cleaning up the mess.

McNabb is clearly on Shanahan. But at least he's already acknowledged the mistake and will quickly move on rather than wasting everyone's time. As a personnel guy, there are going to be misses along with the hits. As long as the hits don't outnumber the mistakes, you're doing ok.

Matty, I agree with you 100% and was not insulting Shanny's decisions. I was just defending the fans reason for leading the pack in lunacy.

I'm probably the biggest DM fan on here but concede that his best is clearly behind him and we must move on. As far as AH, probably the biggest disapointment this season between a coach and player. HTTR!

I must accept that we have fans that suck. A lot of them. Some of them here.

Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.
I think one of the challenges for some fans with Shanny is his apparent utter disregard for the media and their biological tendency to...run with every ridiculous nano-story, real or imagined.
He does NOT appear to care what you think. I'm good with that....so be it.
I want a coach with old school discipline and expectiations......
I don't think he feels he owes the media...anything. I don't think he really cares what they print (more or less) Leave me to my coaching thing kind of guy. He did not sign on to be a.....media darling. I'm good with that as well

Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.

There is nothing wrong with chasing a bunch of free agents as long as they are the right ones. We only have like 5 or 6 draft picks...and we have a lot more holes then that. The key is to sign free agents in thier mid 20's that can be built around. In the big picture the Redskins need to put more emphises on the draft but there is nothing wrong with using free agency also to help get the thing off the ground.

McNabb is clearly on Shanahan. But at least he's already acknowledged the mistake and will quickly move on rather than wasting everyone's time. As a personnel guy, there are going to be misses along with the hits. As long as the hits don't outnumber the mistakes, you're doing ok.Nope, sorry. You have WAYYYYY too much faith in Shanahan to sweep the McNabb thing under the rug as an "aw, shucks" personnel mistake given 11 years of McNabb in Philadelphia. A 2nd and a 4th were given up for the right to make that mistake and then admit that mistake.

And it's also shameless to try the package the Haynesworth situation as "he inherited him" so any horrible management of the situation can be blamed on other parties.

I don't think Mike Shanahan is ever going to mail you a handwritten letter telling you that he's unfit to be coach of the Redskins. Sometimes, you just have to pull yourself out of the moment for a second and read between the lines. When we start rationalizing the obvious mistakes as completely understandable errors, that's what I mean by the "faith in lord Shanahan" crowd.

If you've decided he can do no wrong, then its more clear to me why thinking he should be fired is such a lunatic position for Redskin fans.

TO in doing sit-ups in his yard.

Keyshawn taking a break at Gruden's request.

More recently, Moss traded mid-season after spouting off.

Vince Young told not to attend team meetings.

Yup. The Skins are the only team on which these things happen.


Thank you for the list here. Amazing how facts can get in the way of fans and their adoration of whomever is in charge of their favorite team at the moment...

Thank you for the list here. Amazing how facts can get in the way of fans and their adoration of whomever is in charge of their favorite team at the moment...
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Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.

Only time will tell, most thought the Redskins were rebuilding once a veteran coach and GM were hired. Unfortunately, it was more of the same. He kept the old players initially, Johnson, Parker, Galloway, and cut the young talent, Torrain, Banks, Austin.

Next year is going to be the same or worst, especially if we remain with the 4-3. I have no faith in Shannahan until he accrues more single season wins with the Redskins than Jim Zorn.

Letting his son run the offense...as if is his son was a 3rd grade social studies teacher who Mike Shanahan just plucked out of class one day to run the offense

Or a bingo caller.

Or a bingo caller.
Well...in the interest of accuracy, I believe our Offense did improve after the Bingo Caller's arrival?
He was a natural at sending in the play!
B-32, A-15......