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hooskins 01-07-2011, 12:21 PM I view this as a positive for Shanny. This gives him the ability to either resign or go hunting for his type of guys. I know the latter is pretty hard to do, but if there are guys that he doesn't really want this will help clean up shop without hitting the books at all.
skinsfan69 01-07-2011, 12:32 PM This year we have ALOT of Redskins whose contracts are ending on top of all the guys we are bound to let go.
According to the salary-cap board the contributors whose contracts are up are...
McIntosh
Rogers
Doughty
Brown
Golston
Grossman
Sellers
Buchanon
Heyer
Blades
Wilson
It doesn't say so on the salary-cap section, but I'm told Moss is also up for a new contract this year.
Also there is we do not have the info on guys signed this year like Armstrong, Banks, Torain, Williams and Holliday
On top of all this it seems we are inevitably eating the guaranteed contracts of McNabb (3.75 mil), Haynesworth (3 mil), Portis (5.44 mil), Dockery (4 mil), and Kelly (0.316 mil). There might be even more big named cuts of declining injury prone guys such as Carter (10.47 mil-but I'm sure that is like Moss's contract and is not correct), Rabach (4.43 mil), Hicks (2 mil), or Kemoeatu (2.867).
In the 6 years I have been a serious Redskins fan I cannot remember a time when we have had to extend so many players. I cannot remember a time when we have had to extend non-starting material players. I have no idea who will be given extensions, or what their terms will be. I forsee the amount of guaranteed money we will be eating limiting who we will be able to sign; especially because the new cba is supposed to not rise as much as we have been accustomed to. Also with our 3rd and 4th picks gone it will be difficult to reload as much as we would like, making it possible that we will extend people we do not desire to. I hope we will be able to keep who we want to keep and have enough room to sign an impact free agent or two. Not knowing how the cba is going to pan out makes predicting things like this difficult, but what do you guys see happening to our players with expiring contracts? I hope we don't let any starters walk, we are thin enough on talent as is, and don't have the means to reload right now. I also hope that our desperation doesn't make us overpay. The offseason is normally when I have the most hope for our team, but I am nervous that this offseason possibly might hinder us more than help us.
I would try and trade Rogers and Rocky, or get something for them, anything. I'd bring back Grossman, Blades and Brown as starters, bring back Reed for back up and teams and get rid of Wilson, Sellers, Heyer, Buchanon and Goldston. I'd also try and trade anyone that has value, go 1-15 and have the first pick in the 2012 draft.
You can't trade a guy who isn't under contract, so someone like Rocky is probably just going to walk.
Chico23231 01-07-2011, 12:38 PM Mike Furrey?! I thought we released him before the season started. Was he on IR or something?
Out of the list, I would not try to retain Chris Wilson.. McIntosh and Blades, I'm on the fence of whether if we should try to resign them or not.. It's obviously they do not fit in our defense, however we will need depth.. I am pretty sure McIntosh doesn't want to be back-up, but I think he might won't have a choice after he tests the market..
Most of players in the list will be good for depth, which is what we need. We cannot expect to fill in both starters and depth through FA and draft. It is possible but I don't think it's ideal, though.
Im with you here...add Carter getting cut too. Id like to see us add some new depth at LB and a starter replacing Rocky. Promote Rob Jackson and Jarmon to to outside depth. Move Riley to starter or depth as the successor to Fletch. Alexander as bordline starter/or key depth where he gets 20-25 snaps along with his beast special teams play.
Im probably most interested to see how we handle the LB position this offseason...Gotta feeling the front 7 on D is gonna look really different come next season.
Paintrain 01-07-2011, 12:40 PM I believe I read that the only player on offense (maybe the team) with guaranteed money in 2011 is Trent Williams. We've got players under contract of course but we can release/trade anyone without any potential cap ramifications. We are looking at potential financial flexibility of $30-$40 million of cap space. It's going to be exciting to see who they get but at the same time frustrating because we're going to have to hear the 'same old Redskins' crap from media and fans alike.
Jarmon is back to the d-line now, we definitely need to address the LB group
SmootSmack 01-07-2011, 12:41 PM I would try and trade Rogers and Rocky, or get something for them, anything. I'd bring back Grossman, Blades and Brown as starters, bring back Reed for back up and teams and get rid of Wilson, Sellers, Heyer, Buchanon and Goldston. I'd also try and trade anyone that has value, go 1-15 and have the first pick in the 2012 draft.
It's tough to try to trade impending free agents. Sign and trades don't work as well in the NFL as they do in the NBA
My opinion (sprinkled in with some knowledge of the situations)
Rogers: He'll be back, but it could be a drawn out process
Rocky: They'll let him walk
Grossman: Working on a 2 year extension that essentially allows him to be a bridge to the next guy
Blades: Not likely to return (or so I've been told)
Brown: He stays, they're working on a new contract with him
Wilson: I'd like to see him back but I don't know
Sellers: I'm done with him, he needs to go already
Heyer: They like him, probably will be back
Buchanon: He wants a starters job, but he likes it here. I don't really know
Doughty: Should be back
Golston: Probably gone, looking go get paid. Not in our long term plans
SmootSmack 01-07-2011, 12:43 PM Mike Furrey?! I thought we released him before the season started. Was he on IR or something?
He was on IR. I'm guessing he's not in our plans to come back
skinsfan69 01-07-2011, 01:25 PM It's tough to try to trade impending free agents. Sign and trades don't work as well in the NFL as they do in the NBA
My opinion (sprinkled in with some knowledge of the situations)
Rogers: He'll be back, but it could be a drawn out process
Rocky: They'll let him walk
Grossman: Working on a 2 year extension that essentially allows him to be a bridge to the next guy
Blades: Not likely to return (or so I've been told)
Brown: He stays, they're working on a new contract with him
Wilson: I'd like to see him back but I don't know
Sellers: I'm done with him, he needs to go already
Heyer: They like him, probably will be back
Buchanon: He wants a starters job, but he likes it here. I don't really know
Doughty: Should be back
Golston: Probably gone, looking go get paid. Not in our long term plans
Then I'd just let them go. We're never going to get over the hump with any of these guys. If we bring them back we're just going to have another 4-6 win season. I'd rather go 1-15 then 6-10.
GTripp0012 01-07-2011, 02:03 PM Jarmon is back to the d-line now, we definitely need to address the LB group1 additional pass rusher makes this a very potent pass defense.
You still have to trim the fat, such as Golston/DHall/Moore/Horton/McIntosh who have contributed to the season-long struggles of our pass defense. None of those players will be on the next great Redskins pass defense, but I believe FAR fewer additions are needed than subtractions.
Completely different on the other side of the ball, where we have a lot of decent contributors, but our only above average players are likely Trent Williams, Chris Cooley, and Fred Davis, and no depth.
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