Titans to either trade or release Vince Young

Nobody likes bringing this up, but it seems like Fisher never took into Young from day one. For some reason, he never liked Young. And everyone keeps talking about how great a coach Fisher is. He's been there a long time and has no rings. Just saying.

Nobody likes bringing this up, but it seems like Fisher never took into Young from day one. For some reason, he never liked Young. And everyone keeps talking about how great a coach Fisher is. He's been there a long time and has no rings. Just saying.

Not sure what you're basing that on exactly, but Fisher did everything he could to mentor and develop VY. I think he gave him more than enough opportunities to mature and step up as a team leader. At some point VY has to take responsibility and ownership of his career.

When VY had his suicide incident, it was Fisher out pounding the pavement looking for him. Sure doesn't sound like a uncaring guy to me.

Well Fisher wanted Leinart (and he'll probably get him now) over Young. But it's not like he mistreated Young while he was there. And VY has to take some personal accountability here. He's got too much talent to waste it. But who's going to want to trade for a guy who can't keep his head on straight and owe him close to $13 million. He needs a stable situation, and I don't think he'll find that here. Not now, at least

To me Fisher has always been the type of coach who sets the perfect tone. He is players coach from the standpoint that he supports you professionally and personally but he expects you to do your job professionally and be accountable to the team. VY never really was. It can't be a coincidence that the only major problems Fisher has ever had publicly had with a player of his was a player he was forced to employ against his wishes. That type of environment is very unhealthy. It gives too much power to the player and is tough to handle from the coach's perspective emotionally. (Sounds familiar doesn't it)

Not sure what you're basing that on exactly, but Fisher did everything he could to mentor and develop VY. I think he gave him more than enough opportunities to mature and step up as a team leader. At some point VY has to take responsibility and ownership of his career.

When VY had his suicide incident, it was Fisher out pounding the pavement looking for him. Sure doesn't sound like a uncaring guy to me.

I'm not saying VY doesn't have himself to blame for most, if not all, of his problems. But Fisher never really wanted him. I think its quite obvious.

It can't be a coincidence that the only major problems Fisher has ever had publicly had with a player of his was a player he was forced to employ against his wishes.

And that's a very good point. And with that, did VY ever really have a chance? If the boss doesn't like you, there's gonna be problems.

Five teams who should take a look at Vince Young - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Five-teams-who-should-take-a-look-at-Vince-Young?urn=nfl-304060)

I'm not saying VY doesn't have himself to blame for most, if not all, of his problems. But Fisher never really wanted him. I think its quite obvious.

He may not have wanted him initially, but I think he went above and beyond trying to develop him. In the end VY is just a headcase that would have the same issues whether he is with a coach that wants him or not.

I think Fisher tried his best to make it work, VY simply blew it on his end.

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No way he could thrive with a task master like Shanahan.

He needs a coach who will coddle him to a degree, that's not going to happen with Mike.

No way he could thrive with a task master like Shanahan.

He needs a coach who will coddle him to a degree, that's not going to happen with Mike.

Too bad WIDE Philips got the axe....