Huge FA Class in 2011 - But will anyone want to come here?

Free agency cant begin until a new CBA is reached, and its not expected to be reached before March when FA has historically begun. I had not considered that aspect of it but Larry Weisman was talking about it on ESPN980 yesterday.

In my opinion, it makes more sense for the draft to occur before free agency, atleast from the teams perspective.

Ahhh yes, I didn't think about that aspect of it either. Agree that it makes more sense too, though when has that ever changed anything haha? I know from my madden franchises the frustration that order brings...


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We did [start to] break tradition last year. All of the old guys are cuttable with no cap hit. Bruce Allen sure has brought his contract designing expertise to the table.

Also, we didn't overpay for the likes of Willie Parker and Larry Johnson. BA has definitely brought some financial responsibility to the team.

Free agency cant begin until a new CBA is reached, and its not expected to be reached before March when FA has historically begun. I had not considered that aspect of it but Larry Weisman was talking about it on ESPN980 yesterday.

In my opinion, it makes more sense for the draft to occur before free agency, atleast from the teams perspective.

You are correct. They were talking about it yesterday also on the radio that we might just see the draft come first for a change if the CBA is not resolved. Free agency might end up being over the summer, which might be a good thing for the Skins for a change. Force them to use the draft vs. throwing away draft picks.

You are correct. They were talking about it yesterday also on the radio that we might just see the draft come first for a change if the CBA is not resolved. Free agency might end up being over the summer, which might be a good thing for the Skins for a change. Force them to use the draft vs. throwing away draft picks.

Seems more likely the cba won't be resolved by draft time. I think this will make for some interesting scenarios as pertains to movement in the draft. Will more teams want to trade out of the top 10 to avoid the big salaries & reserve some funds for free agents? Or will there be more interest in moving up into the top 10 since teams haven't signed any FAs?

You are correct. They were talking about it yesterday also on the radio that we might just see the draft come first for a change if the CBA is not resolved. Free agency might end up being over the summer, which might be a good thing for the Skins for a change. Force them to use the draft vs. throwing away draft picks.

Exactly... The NFLPA wont like it though, as this will result in most teams holding off on signing beterans until everything else shakes out. As an example, if the draft had occurred prior to free agency in 2010, we probalby wouldnt have wasted our time bringing in Larry Johnson and Willie Parker.

Some interesting news.... especially in regards to Sinorice Moss.

Redskins work out veteran wide receiver; Haynesworth shows up - Yardbarker (http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/nflbuzz/redskins_work_out_veteran_wide_receiver_hayneswort h_shows_up/3902498)

The team worked out two players late last week, a source confirmed.

One of them was WR Sinorice Moss, the younger brother of Redskins WR Santana Moss.

Sinorice Moss was selected in the second round of the 2006 NFL Draft by the New York Giants, who waived him from injured reserve on Nov. 9.

I think the McNabb thing is a bit overblown. People know that Shanahan has won a lot of games in this league doing things his way. If you perform you've got nothing to worry about. Can we sit here today and really say that DM was performing at a high level? Anyone?

If you talked hypothetically about a veteran Qb going to a new team that was 4-12 the year before, with a rookie left tackle, awful offensive line and that Qb has to learn a new system, I would tell you that veteran QB is going to struggle. Are you surprised that he did struggle? The entire team in particular his Offensive line and defense struggled.
There is no question McNabb did not play well.
McNabb came to a new 4-12 team and a new offensive system. QB's usually get a second chance in this kind of situation. Not thrown under the bus and blamed like McNabb was. There are hall of Fame Qb's that have had bad stretches, parts of seasons or even an entire season where they did not play well.
The point BHA correctly brings up is when things got tough this season and shit hit the fan, Shanahan showed very little loyalty and publicly shouldered very little, if any of the blame. He kept quiet and allowed the press to feast on McNabb and AH. Lets be clear, the team did not fail because of Mcnabb and Ah failed. The team, FO and coaches (son) all failed.
It is too easy to blame McNabb.

If you talked hypothetically about a veteran Qb going to a new team that was 4-12 the year before and that Qb has to learn a new system, I would tell you that veteran QB is going to struggle. Are you surprised that he did struggle? The entire team in particular his Offensive line and defense struggled.
There is no question McNabb did not play well.
McNabb came to a new 4-12 team and a new offensive system. QB's usually get a second chance in this kind of situation. Not thrown under the bus and blamed like McNabb was. There are hall of Fame Qb's that have had bad stretches, parts of seasons or even an entire season where they did not play well.
The point BHA correctly brings up is when thigs got tough Shanahan showed very little loyalty to his players and in this case allowed the press to feast on McNabb and AH. Lets be clear, the team did not fail because of Mcnabb and Ah failed. The team, FO and coaches (son) all failed.
It is too easy to blame McNabb.I think the press fed itself more than Shanahan did with regards to Haynesworth. When Al Golic can pass the damn conditioning test while AH is not, that's sure damn laughable.

Shanahan did admit to goofing up the first benching though.

Regardless of our talent deficiencies and his learning curve, McNabb has not been that great without his wheels. He's great at throwing bombs and throwing screens, but woefully inconsistent in the short passing game. He's been that way even in Philly.

If you talked hypothetically about a veteran Qb going to a new team that was 4-12 the year before, with a rookie left tackle, awful offensive line and that Qb has to learn a new system, I would tell you that veteran QB is going to struggle. Are you surprised that he did struggle? The entire team in particular his Offensive line and defense struggled.
There is no question McNabb did not play well.
McNabb came to a new 4-12 team and a new offensive system. QB's usually get a second chance in this kind of situation. Not thrown under the bus and blamed like McNabb was. There are hall of Fame Qb's that have had bad stretches, parts of seasons or even an entire season where they did not play well.
The point BHA correctly brings up is when things got tough this season and shit hit the fan, Shanahan showed very little loyalty and publicly shoulder very litytle if any of the blame. He kept quiet and allowed the press to feast on McNabb and AH. Lets be clear, the team did not fail because of Mcnabb and Ah failed. The team, FO and coaches (son) all failed.
It is too easy to blame McNabb.

Ok, chalk you up in the McNabb sympathizer catagory. But this is exactly what I'm saying. I went to another site and they had a "Should we sign Payton Manning" thread. lol. I wrote why would we go out and pick up another old QB, bring him in to learn a whole new system for which he will only know part of by the start of the season, and end up complaining about his performance because he either didn't grasp it all or simply did a poor job. But the same could be said about drafting a QB. Whoever we bring in will have to learn the plays, play calls, and be comfortable in it. The rest of the team will be in year 2 of the system so they should know it better but the QB won't. Now if we keep McNabb he should have a better understanding of the system and should play better. However McNabb still has his issues of throwing over recievers and throwing dirt balls. He's not as mobile as he used to be as we saw this year and he's not the best QB during the last 2 min. of a game. But thats how he's always been. Ask any Eagles fan.

Ok, chalk you up in the McNabb sympathizer catagory. But this is exactly what I'm saying. I went to another site and they had a "Should we sign Payton Manning" thread. lol. I wrote why would we go out and pick up another old QB, bring him in to learn a whole new system for which he will only know part of by the start of the season, and end up complaining about his performance because he either didn't grasp it all or simply did a poor job. But the same could be said about drafting a QB. Whoever we bring in will have to learn the plays, play calls, and be comfortable in it. The rest of the team will be in year 2 of the system so they should know it better but the QB won't. Now if we keep McNabb he should have a better understanding of the system and should play better. However McNabb still has his issues of throwing over recievers and throwing dirt balls. He's not as mobile as he used to be as we saw this year and he's not the best QB during the last 2 min. of a game. But thats how he's always been. Ask any Eagles fan.

I am not really a sympathizer to either McNabb or AH. I am more disappointed in the way it was handled. Now AH and McNabb's trade value is almost zero, because all of the teams know we do want them or feel they are any value to us.
I am also pissed by the way news filters out of Redskins park under Shanahan in form of constant press leaks. It seems like amateur hour the way Shanahan has handled players in the press.