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mooby 01-09-2011, 02:23 AM what you didn't mention is that he also apparently has great intangibles. From what I've read he's a winner, a leader, he loves to play football, and he has a great overall mentality.
If you could provide some links about good articles on Cam Newton I'd love to read up on him. Everything I've heard suggests the opposite, he's probably not ready for NFL defenses because he's had one good year at the collegiate level and before that it was JUCO for him, and I still have sneaking doubts that he was in on his dad's pay for play scheme. And in various tidbits I've read I feel like he gets the idea that he's God's gift to football. I haven't read anything concrete though but I just have my doubts, I'd love to know what is more factually accurate about him than just relying on various tidbits that I hear randomly. I'm not worried at all about his football skills, I want to know what he's like off the field.
Landry44 01-09-2011, 02:26 AM what you didn't mention is that he also apparently has great intangibles. From what I've read he's a winner, a leader, he loves to play football, and he has a great overall mentality.
You're right, over the last two years he has proven to be a great leader. This kid makes everyone around here better.
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Bucket 01-09-2011, 04:02 AM I'm not against picking up Newton. He's the next Vick, but I think he has a better arm.
I'm just worried about if we pick up Newton, and then don't work on other areas of the football team. If we can get Newton with our 2nd round pick that would be outstanding, or if we can trade back and get him later while picking up another pick or two. I would be happy as well.
Shadowbyte 01-09-2011, 04:26 AM Even though I really like Kellan Moore, if Newton is available when we pick we'd be fools to pass him up.
Terpfan76 01-09-2011, 11:58 AM Also, walter football mocks us newton in the first and WR Torrey Smith in the second. Im not from around DC, but any thoughts on smith? Is he worthy of a second round pick? What is his skill set?
I'll pass on Newton. Show me one of these "athletes that happen to be qb's" that has been able to win on the big stage? Give me a stout offensive line and a big ol' pocket passer with good feet and pocket presence.
As for Torrey Smith, he's a 6'1" 200lb 4.35-4.40 wideout who is also a pretty explosive kickoff return man. He had injury issues early this season but rebounded and had a pretty good season once Danny O'Brien took over at QB. Hasn't been the primary punt returner, but we really don't need that with Banks. I think a second round pick on him might be a bit of a reach, but we'll see what people think after the combine. In the video, take note of some of the throws #5 Danny O'Brien makes. He'll be a RS Soph this year. He may be the best qb the Terps have had since Boomer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A_6n_eoI2o&feature=related
As for Dalton:
Bottom line: Overall, Dalton's physical skills might get him drafted late, but I would not draft him. I would sign him as a free agent with the intention of keeping him on the practice squad for a season to see if he can develop. However, in the long term I do not believe he will ever develop enough to be a good starting QB in the NFL and will likely have trouble carving out a long term NFL career.
SportingNews.com - Pro Football War Room (http://warroom.sportingnews.com/nfl/draft/2011/players/9819.html)
Not the be all/end all of draft gurus, but they do a pretty good job.
cdskins26 01-09-2011, 12:51 PM I'll pass on Newton. Show me one of these "athletes that happen to be qb's" that has been able to win on the big stage? Give me a stout offensive line and a big ol' pocket passer with good feet and pocket presence. .
Newton also can throw the ball with power and accuracy. I think unless he explodes against oregon, the risk factor still makes him available at 10. Snyder lives for a pick like that and shannahan loves quarterbacks like that. I dont think he is as much like vick as he has potential to be vince young with a better arm. Build the team around him, repair the defense through FA, sign a slot/#2 receiver like Sims-Walker, and draft OL and Wr's
Terpfan76 01-09-2011, 02:00 PM Newton also can throw the ball with power and accuracy. I think unless he explodes against oregon, the risk factor still makes him available at 10. Snyder lives for a pick like that and shannahan loves quarterbacks like that. I dont think he is as much like vick as he has potential to be vince young with a better arm. Build the team around him, repair the defense through FA, sign a slot/#2 receiver like Sims-Walker, and draft OL and Wr's
Agree to disagree. I'm not suggesting he won't become a good qb, I'm just not interested in taking the chance that he won't. I don't see him becoming this team or anyone else franchise qb.
Landry44 01-09-2011, 06:00 PM I'm not against picking up Newton. He's the next Vick, but I think he has a better arm.
I'm just worried about if we pick up Newton, and then don't work on other areas of the football team. If we can get Newton with our 2nd round pick that would be outstanding, or if we can trade back and get him later while picking up another pick or two. I would be happy as well.
I think a lot his value is going to depend on how well he does in the National Championship. As it stands right now I think we should be able to get him 15 through 20. If does poorly in the National Championship he will fall to the second round. I believe a lot people are looking for reasons to dislike this kid. That is why I'm confident that one bad performance will cause his value to drop.
TheSmurfs22 01-09-2011, 10:10 PM Can we draft a new owner??
tygarcia 01-09-2011, 11:32 PM You listed 5 teams that need a QB..... 5 good QB prospects in this updcoming draft dont exist. OL & DL should be 75% of our picks. Re-sign Moss, keep AA, work out T. Austin, see if Malcom Kelly will give you anything. Bring back Rogers & Rocky.Let Chris Wilson, anthony bryant, Jeremy Jarmon, Rob Jackson compete for starting positions. We NEED a C and RT....and DL. NO MORE QB TALK UNTIL 2012.....beef up the LINES for a change PLEASE!!!!
Could not have said it any better!!!!
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