NFL Coaching Rumors and Moves


skinsguy
01-28-2011, 02:48 PM
Mike Shanahan didn't take the engine totally apart and rebuild with brand spanking new parts. He wanted to "win soon", which means finding scrap parts from various places and hoping it would all work in the end. That's why he didn't jettison AH, brought in Mcflabb, brought LJ, brought in Parker, brought in Kemo.

As with any winning coach, their main goal is to build a championship team the way that has worked for them before, but also, to put themselves in the best position to win right away.

Mike Shanahan hasn't even begun to build the team yet. Any thought of him turning this team into an instant winner this past season is hilariously retarded.

He brought in guys who he thought could contribute and possibly help mentor the younger players....players who he thought could run his son's offense for the short while, but in no way was he ever thinking of building his team around any of those veterans. Maybe McNabb, but in the back of MS's mind, I'm sure he knew that he would be drafting a QB in the up and coming seasons, maybe just not this soon.

Overall, I would question the sanity of any Redskins fan that would want to jettison Shanahan after one, even two seasons. Perfection doesn't come over night nor does it come easily.

BuckSkin
01-28-2011, 05:03 PM
EricStangel: BREAKING: Jeff Fisher out as Titans coach. Bud Adams says he's looking to interview Weeb Ewbank & Curly Lambeau

Sorry..... Too soon for a Ewbank, Lambeau reference?

SirClintonPortis
01-28-2011, 05:07 PM
As with any winning coach, their main goal is to build a championship team the way that has worked for them before, but also, to put themselves in the best position to win right away.

Mike Shanahan hasn't even begun to build the team yet. Any thought of him turning this team into an instant winner this past season is hilariously retarded.

He brought in guys who he thought could contribute and possibly help mentor the younger players....players who he thought could run his son's offense for the short while, but in no way was he ever thinking of building his team around any of those veterans. Maybe McNabb, but in the back of MS's mind, I'm sure he knew that he would be drafting a QB in the up and coming seasons, maybe just not this soon.

Overall, I would question the sanity of any Redskins fan that would want to jettison Shanahan after one, even two seasons. Perfection doesn't come over night nor does it come easily.You don't bring in a plethora of reclamation projects who went out as quickly as the came in just to hope for a little leadership. You bring them in hoping that they will show competitive form and thus contribute to a contender in the near future because they'll flame out in the near future. Of course he didn't plan on them for the long term, BUT he did expect them to contribute in the short term. It cost the team possible gems in the draft or UDFA. Probably the only vets brought in solely to "just add a solid guy" were Holliday, Hicks and Buchanon.

Longtimefan
01-29-2011, 09:23 AM
I wonder who the Titans owner has in mind. I doubt the owner would simply wait so long after the season, then fire his HC who has done fairly well up untill the last two or three seasons with out having someone in mind or having already made a deal with someone to take over.

I know he will have to go through the whole interview process but you just don't fire a HC like Fisher unless you either have major differences, can't get along, or already have a replacement ready.

Jeff Fisher says it's 'time to move on' from Titans - NFL - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/28/titans-fisher.ap/index.html)

skinsguy
01-29-2011, 09:47 AM
You don't bring in a plethora of reclamation projects who went out as quickly as the came in just to hope for a little leadership. You bring them in hoping that they will show competitive form and thus contribute to a contender in the near future because they'll flame out in the near future. Of course he didn't plan on them for the long term, BUT he did expect them to contribute in the short term. It cost the team possible gems in the draft or UDFA. Probably the only vets brought in solely to "just add a solid guy" were Holliday, Hicks and Buchanon.


Hindsight is 20/20. Everybody is brilliant after the fact.

JoeRedskin
01-29-2011, 12:24 PM
You don't bring in a plethora of reclamation projects who went out as quickly as the came in just to hope for a little leadership. You bring them in hoping that they will show competitive form and thus contribute to a contender in the near future because they'll flame out in the near future. Of course he didn't plan on them for the long term, BUT he did expect them to contribute in the short term. It cost the team possible gems in the draft or UDFA. Probably the only vets brought in solely to "just add a solid guy" were Holliday, Hicks and Buchanon.


Which gems? The statement is so speculative as to be silly. Only MS and BA really know why they went with the older guys. I am glad you got that telepathy working for you. Perhaps it was a simple stopgap while he assessed the lay of the land. Put some guys in he is familiar with to eliminate as many variables as possible to see what the real issues are. "Maybe they pan out, maybe they don't but at least I know these guys know what the pro game is about."

Seriously, who was on the roster that was cut and is a "gem" for some other team? Seems to me as the season progressed more and more youth was introduced into the team.

Clearly, mistakes were made but, you know what, it's year f'ing one. If the trend continues, I am on board with you. But for now, let's see how this guy rolls. He was handed a steaming pile of crap and I am sure the problems we saw on the field over the past few years are only the type fo the iceberg. This was a completely dysfunctional organization. Let's see what the plan is over a couple of years.

But you're right. He erred on some things and didn't win more games than he lost. So let's fire the MF, hire Fisher, change offensive and defensive philosophies again, etc. etc.

CRedskinsRule
01-29-2011, 01:24 PM
I want to know how anything can cost a team gems in the UDFA market? We didn't choose that undrafted star qb, because we signed McNabb? If we hadn't gotten Brown, we would have kept the perfect UDFA RT?

BuckSkin
01-29-2011, 01:36 PM
Speaking of UDFA's I wonder if Shanahan would have kept Chase Daniels. I'm afraid we cut ties with him too soon.

SirClintonPortis
01-29-2011, 01:44 PM
Hindsight is 20/20. Everybody is brilliant after the fact.Shanahan's decisions weren't consistent with team rebuilding even if everything turned out rosy. After three years, they all would likely beecome ineffective and we would need to replace them again. That's why I said his strategy was "win soon" the past offseason. He believed those old guys go provide enough to win it all before age hit them about three years from last offseason. You bring in short-term players to finish the puzzle, not start it. If he really wanted to "win in a couple of years and then keep on winning for many years after that", he would have been scouring the planet for as many good long-term players as he could find.

SirClintonPortis
01-29-2011, 01:49 PM
I want to know how anything can cost a team gems in the UDFA market? We didn't choose that undrafted star qb, because we signed McNabb? If we hadn't gotten Brown, we would have kept the perfect UDFA RT?No, it's a matter of weighing the probabilities.
There's at least some CHANCE(7% or less) that they'll be a stud. The probability of McNabb or Brown being good 5 years from now is 0.00001%, give or take. And that's just the cost of a roster spot, not the picks given up for them.

Antonio Dixon? Yeah, we put him on the practice squad. Where is he now? Oh yeah, on the Eagles as a starter.

We could have lost Austin or Banks as well.

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