D. Hall is our lone Pro Bowl selection

I agree with a lot of this. Overall, I think Los and Hall actually complement each other very well, and even though our D had some rough moments, I hope we keep both. Hall has outstanding hands and QB's know that if he's in the area they need to be careful with their throws. That's an asset in Pass Defense if it makes the QB hesitate or re-scan. Los, may not make QB's fear throwing his way, but he can keep his receivers covered very well. This can and has caused problems for opposing QBs and there is a reason PB was getting thrown on as much as he was. Out of all the defensive positions, I would think CB is not one we should be spending a lot of draft or FA effort on.Just by the total # of targets, I would argue that no one is thinking twice about throwing at Hall. Not to say everyone is Jay Cutler out there -- targeting him for the sake of targeting him -- but he's averaging between 7 and 8 targets per game as a Redskins. Revis and Asomugha, by comparison, usually see about 2 or 3.

Just by the total # of targets, I would argue that no one is thinking twice about throwing at Hall. Not to say everyone is Jay Cutler out there -- targeting him for the sake of targeting him -- but he's averaging between 7 and 8 targets per game as a Redskins. Revis and Asomugha, by comparison, usually see about 2 or 3.
I guess, I would clarify, that he's not a lockdown type, so yes qb's will throw his way, but that also is because Los is closer to a lockdown type (now give us his stats, cuz I don't have any and am just thinking out loud). I know QBs will throw at Hall, but they most certainly look at him as more of a threat to intercept a ball than Los is.

Just by the total # of targets, I would argue that no one is thinking twice about throwing at Hall. Not to say everyone is Jay Cutler out there -- targeting him for the sake of targeting him -- but he's averaging between 7 and 8 targets per game as a Redskins. Revis and Asomugha, by comparison, usually see about 2 or 3.

GT, you've also said that the cover 2 scheme the skins ran most of the year left pretty big gaps between the cb & safeties. Late in the year you said it improved & I think that showed in the defense's overall improvement, there were fewer easy completions in the seems.

Hall could be more of a shutdown corner IMO, but the defense isn't set up that way & as discussed here, he is a gambler. I think he could have his best years ahead; he's a guy that had to mature as a pro, after being MeAngelo in college & his early years w/ATl. Although I was against signing him, we may be getting the best out of him.

I was sure for awhile Khareem Moore was going to be that guy. After his injury the wheels seem like they just fell off. I still miss ST. HTTR <3 #21

Me too, I thought he looked really good last year & would step up as a starter. Instead, he looked timid and/or lost much of the time.

Actually he lucked into a few of them that game. Props for being able to hold onto them though lol

He must just be one lucky guy. I don't know... I think if it was one interception, that might just be being at the right place at the right time by accident. But if you're talking about his record-tying performance, that means that he was at the right place at the right time 4 TIMES.

Football is all about team and player positioning on the field.

... and Hall really proved that he belonged in the Pro Bowl, despite of what some of you think. He must have just gotten lucky again with the strip and touchdown and the interception... or the quarterbacks were just attacking him more so he got more chances at making plays.

Yeah, I guess not respecting him works... just ask Cutler.

He must just be one lucky guy. I don't know... I think if it was one interception, that might just be being at the right place at the right time by accident. But if you're talking about his record-tying performance, that means that he was at the right place at the right time 4 TIMES.

Football is all about team and player positioning on the field.


Two he came into on poor throws and the other two were thrown directly to him as if he were the receiver. That's not to say that he didn't do the right things but had the QB and receiver done the right things maybe only one of those would've been picked. I'm not taking anything away from Hall but there's a reason that he came down with 4 that day and only 2 on the rest of the year. If you don't believe me just watch the video.

Two he came into on poor throws and the other two were thrown directly to him as if he were the receiver. That's not to say that he didn't do the right things but had the QB and receiver done the right things maybe only one of those would've been picked. I'm not taking anything away from Hall but there's a reason that he came down with 4 that day and only 2 on the rest of the year. If you don't believe me just watch the video.

To me, capitalizing on opposing players' mistakes and circumstances does not equate to being lucky.

Here, to me is the argument against Hall's INTs:

His 11 Washington Redskin picks (excluding the Hail Mary vs. Kolb) came against the following QBs:

2008 Week 11 -- Romo (w/broken thumb)
2008 Week 12 -- E. Manning
2009 Week 1 -- E. Manning
2009 Week 4 -- J. Johnson
2009 Week 5 -- Delhomme
2009 Week 10 -- C. Simms
2010 Week 7 -- Cutler
2010 Week 7 -- Cutler
2010 Week 7 -- Cutler
2010 Week 7 -- Cutler
2010 Week 8 -- Stafford

My point is: it's not like the Redskins just haven't played great quarterbacks. We've seen Schaub, Peyton, Vick, Ryan, Rodgers, Romo, Eli, and McNabb while Hall's starting. He managed to get Eli twice (and Eli's no slouch though he will throw it up for grabs), but in the rest of the games against the best passers Hall was, in his best moments, a non-factor.

I mean, Carlos Rogers only has four picks in the last three seasons, but he's also gotten Warner and Schaub once each (with a horrible drop against Peyton). Against the most prolific QBs we've faced, Rogers -- not Hall -- has been the better playmaker.

For Pete's Sake, enough with the stupid stats. Why can't people just stop belly-aching about DeAngelo Hall and support the guy. Geez...he was voted to the Pro Bowl and won MVP honors in the game. He's a Redskin. He represented our team, and you people are going to sit here and tell me that you're going to find something wrong with each and every little positive thing that comes our way? Ridiculous! Just plain ridiculous! I understand the bad vibes against guys like Hanesworth, but this? :doh: