Week 16: Redskins vs. Jaguars Gameday thread

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Michaelt31
12-26-2010, 06:05 PM
How are we going to replace the guys who leave by retiring or FA? UDFA isn't going to solve everything.

You talking about amaybe 5 or 6 guys. Even if we use the picks, we not going to strike a diamond with all of them. All the good teams have 5 or 6 udfa. This is one position u got to fix.

redskins5044
12-26-2010, 06:09 PM
Forget the experts, watch him play. This guy is playing with below average wr's. He is better than any qb we have right now. Until we fix this qb thing, we always going to be a middle of the road team. We should be able to get some form of draft picks for guys like Hall, Carter, AH, and DM. This guy is made for this system.


Its one thing to draft a QB high in the 1st round but another to give up a entire draft and a 1st pick the next year to get him. not worth the risk IMO, if we dont get him its not like we are the team who passed on him

redskins5044
12-26-2010, 06:11 PM
You talking about amaybe 5 or 6 guys. Even if we use the picks, we not going to strike a diamond with all of them. All the good teams have 5 or 6 udfa. This is one position u got to fix.


true it is a position that needs to be addressed but not at the expense of all the positions that need help too.

Hog1
12-26-2010, 06:18 PM
Forget the experts, watch him play. This guy is playing with below average wr's. He is better than any qb we have right now. Until we fix this qb thing, we always going to be a middle of the road team. We should be able to get some form of draft picks for guys like Hall, Carter, AH, and DM. This guy is made for this system.

I hear that, but we can win the SB without Superior QB talent...ergo Theisman, Williams and Rypien. They simply had Superior O-lines.

Michaelt31
12-26-2010, 06:18 PM
Its one thing to draft a QB high in the 1st round but another to give up a entire draft and a 1st pick the next year to get him. not worth the risk IMO, if we dont get him its not like we are the team who passed on him

I'm talking about three picks, hell we draft 2 wr's and a te and none of them will be a star. This is the year to do it. This draft is a waste without a 3rd and 4th round pick. With a elite qb and a stud at LT, we will on our way to a elite team. This team has a lot over paid or over rate players. It's time to cut the payroll and start over. This is the guy to do it with. I don't know if teams will be willing to trade with us. But I know one thing, the guys we have now won't cut it on winning teams.

Michaelt31
12-26-2010, 06:20 PM
I hear that, but we can win the SB without Superior QB talent...ergo Theisman, Williams and Rypien. They simply had Superior O-lines.

How many of those linemen were first round picks.

SkinzWin
12-26-2010, 06:25 PM
I'm talking about three picks, hell we draft 2 wr's and a te and none of them will be a star. This is the year to do it. This draft is a waste without a 3rd and 4th round pick. With a elite qb and a stud at LT, we will on our way to a elite team. This team has a lot over paid or over rate players. It's time to cut the payroll and start over. This is the guy to do it with. I don't know if teams will be willing to trade with us. But I know one thing, the guys we have now won't cut it on winning teams.

This team will still be nothing with only an elite QB and stud LT. We still need to address virtually every position on the roster with the exception of TE right now. We have very little depth and very few picks to start with. I can't believe you can say we would be on our way to an elite team with only those two positions accounted for.

Sure Luck looks like the QB of the decade. But what if he's not? What if he is only average, or a bust? Then you've set the team back years as we will have zero good draft picks and nothing to show for it going forward. This is the oldest team in the NFL. You are right it is time to cut the payroll and start over. But the way to do that is through the draft. You can't trade all your high picks like you are having a fire sale and then sit there and say AND we have to cut payroll and start over. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Impossible. Your position is like Communism. Great in theory, a terrible disaster in real world application.

redskins5044
12-26-2010, 06:26 PM
I'm talking about three picks, hell we draft 2 wr's and a te and none of them will be a star. This is the year to do it. This draft is a waste without a 3rd and 4th round pick. With a elite qb and a stud at LT, we will on our way to a elite team. This team has a lot over paid or over rate players. It's time to cut the payroll and start over. This is the guy to do it with. I don't know if teams will be willing to trade with us. But I know one thing, the guys we have now won't cut it on winning teams.

yeah 3 high picks. no more wasting them. i saw some good things out of the young guys today. bryant looks like he can be serviceable NT. Rob Jackson played good, Perry Riley too, and we still have Henson who was a beast in the preseason ( i know the preseason doesnt mean anything). lets try to stock pile some picks maybe trade davis or cooley who ever garners more interest, paulsen is a decent backup TE. lets build with a good quanity of draft picks. let this front office and coach build there team it has only been one year. if after 3 years we are still a 5-11 or 6-10 team then lets freak out.

Hog1
12-26-2010, 06:26 PM
How many of those linemen were first round picks.
I don't know?
BUT I can tell you regardless of who plays behind this line, we have no chance at success...UNTIL that changes. We do not need to mortgage our future. We need to build the Hogs2 and we will have a running and passing game to contend with.
A QB....ANY qb cannot do that alone

redskins5044
12-26-2010, 06:27 PM
This team will still be nothing with only an elite QB and stud LT. We still need to address virtually every position on the roster with the exception of TE right now. We have very little depth and very few picks to start with. I can't believe you can say we would be on our way to an elite team with only those two positions accounted for.

Sure Luck looks like the QB of the decade. But what if he's not? What if he is only average, or a bust? Then you've set the team back years as we will have zero good draft picks and nothing to show for it going forward. This is the oldest team in the NFL. You are right it is time to cut the payroll and start over. But the way to do that is through the draft. You can't trade all your high picks like you are having a fire sale and then sit there and say AND we have to cut payroll and start over. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Impossible. Your position is like Communism. Great in theory, a terrible disaster in real world application.


totally agree if he is there when we pick then i dont have a problem picking him, but not giving up so much to get a guy who could be a bust.

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