Around the NFL: Week 16

Yeah Orton should be high on our radar... Grossman the fallback plan.

Agreed.

Yo HTown maybe you should check his career stats and record, pretty damn good. The last 3 years he's been very good and he's a big arm accurate QB. The most underrated QB in football IMO. Is he Dan Marino? Heck no but he's a pretty good player. He had no Marshall this year and moreno was hurt a lot and still but up BIG Time numbers. Just saying

Yeah well a lot of tipped balls off of receivers hands were because he was overthrowing. Eli has 24 picks and 6 lost fumbles. That's not good enough.

If his last name wasn't manning I swear people would rip him all day.. I've never been a fan of his, I'd take McNabb over Eli any day. You would think he would know his mechanics by now but my god he looks so damn lost at times. The guy isn't the worst QB but NO MORE franchise QB label for Eli.

If his last name wasn't manning I swear people would rip him all day.. I've never been a fan of his, I'd take McNabb over Eli any day. You would think he would know his mechanics by now but my god he looks so damn lost at times. The guy isn't the worst QB but NO MORE franchise QB label for Eli.

Never include this on your resume, could negatively impact people's view of your decision making...

I would support us making a move for Orton, and rebuilding other aspects like our defense in the draft.

Grossman vs Orton vs Beck for the Redskins QB next season could be interesting.

Yo HTown maybe you should check his career stats and record, pretty damn good. The last 3 years he's been very good and he's a big arm accurate QB. The most underrated QB in football IMO. Is he Dan Marino? Heck no but he's a pretty good player. He had no Marshall this year and moreno was hurt a lot and still but up BIG Time numbers. Just saying

I just dont think Orton is any better than Rex,just seems like a lateral move.No he didnt have Marshall this yr,but he had Lloyd who is playing out of his mind.According to my Denver friend,when the games on the line Orton blows it,either witha fumble,pick or ball in the dirt.He's a tease,he'll make you think he's great but then blows it.
Now if were signing Orton to replace Rex as a stopgap for a rookie,Im not opposed to that,just dont think hes the guy you throw a lot of money at to be the"GUY"

If his last name wasn't manning I swear people would rip him all day.. I've never been a fan of his, I'd take McNabb over Eli any day. You would think he would know his mechanics by now but my god he looks so damn lost at times. The guy isn't the worst QB but NO MORE franchise QB label for Eli.

Trust me, most Giants fans I know aren't big fans of Eli, never have been despite winning a SB.

Trust me, most Giants fans I know aren't big fans of Eli, never have been despite winning a SB.



....I trust you but I would disagree with you.

If his last name wasn't manning I swear people would rip him all day.. I've never been a fan of his, I'd take McNabb over Eli any day. You would think he would know his mechanics by now but my god he looks so damn lost at times. The guy isn't the worst QB but NO MORE franchise QB label for Eli.
....... maybe but I would take him over any QB the Skins or the Cowboys or the Eagles have had in the last 7 years.

....I trust you but I would disagree with you.

The next Giant fan I meet that is a big supporter of Eli will be the first.

What % of fans would you say are firm supporters of him?