McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...

Try reading a few of my posts. Thus far I'm on the fence with Shanahan, but never did I say McNabb didn't deserve to be benched. My issue is and has been all along the way Shanahan has explained his benchings, and how much we gave up to get McNabb.

And McNabb is a crybaby for letting his agent make that statement.


He's the Head Coach and can say and do what he sees fit. If you are on the fence, its because you are not looking at the overall picture regarding being competitive in this division. Most of the teams in the NFL are hard-nosed and coached accordingly. A player, I don't care who he is, does not make decisions regarding his play on the field, and is subjected to the decision making of the head coach who does have the say so to change things up if the head coach has an idea of what is needed to make his offense work.

An example of staying too long with a QB who was not that good was Jason Campbell. Every coach since Gibbs gave him a free ride.

If all you care about is bettering the team, how about your dear god Mike Shanahan utterly destroying the trade value of his players? And Andy Reid got rid of McNabb without this "burning the entire bridge" ****wittery between player and coach.

And seriously, you're a guy who believes that Allen really called the shots on McNabb and Shanahan just followed along because there was "no better option"? There is ALWAYS an option to simply give up a couple years to stockpile the roster with young guys to build a core, and then pounce on a young QB when the time is right.

Allen has always been a subordinate who just makes sure they don't violate the salary cap and the like. Gruden called the shots in Tampa with regards to talent picking, and Shanahan has been calling the shots for his entire in Denver, and he doesn't play second fiddle to anyone.

Lastly, McNabb's physical skillset ( at least in the past) does appear to fit what Shanahan wants out of his QB. He wants a mobile and a big armed QB because of his frequent use of play action bootlegs and deep balls.

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And separately, thanks for correcting me on the other post.



At the time of the McNabb trade, we all thought that he was a vast improvement over Campbell. Kyle knows how his play calling should be executed. In my opinion, Donovan is not always in the game. If he can run this offense but on occasions his head and body are elsewhere, then he is not the guy to run it. He may not be hungry enough. There are NO excuses for him. He should know better. Either come in and compete or let us find the right fix. This has nothing to do with GM vs HC. It's about winning and being competitive!

I have lost some respect for Shanahan. All of the leaks in the press really irks me and is not very classy. A coach is a leader of men, he is supposed to motivate them, not treat them like like shit and throw them under the bus because the theam has a losing record. When your leader is a bitch in the press, and leaking things even before the player is informed is weak. Makes me want to kick him in the baby maker.
Shanahan is protecting his son. He is inflexible and stubborn to a fault. He will never admit any mistakes or wrong doing. I can not respect someone like that. I do not care how many Sb's he won with Elway.
FRPLG said early on this thread that McNabb is not deserving or respect because he played well in Philadelphia not Washington. Well the same has to apply to Shanahan.
I want continuity and I do not want Shanahan replaced or fired. But I want him to be a good leader and not be a weasel.
I do however want Haslett and last ranked defense gone. The guy has never impressed me and I want a coach that brings more to the table.

How does this in any way relate to my post that you quoted?



Head coaches and the teams they coach need one voice to make the calls that previous coaches lost their jobs because they went along with business as usual.

Your reference about NE being a good example of knowing how to mix kind words and deeds in handling these types of situations, reminds me of players in the past who played for NE complaining that they were lied to by the HC, recently, Randy Moss.

As to the first point- sure he's had successes and failures. What coach/GM hasn't? My point is, to have his first big move as our HC/Personnel man be such a failure at such a high price at the most important position... well, pretty darn bad start.

As to the second point, is anyone saying he can't get it done? He just hasn't gotten off on the right foot.


Your first point is negated by the fact that it doesn't matter how he handled it. Maybe it was said as a pay back for the way Donovan has played. I, along with you and others, have no idea what may have been said in private conversations between the two of them. After all, the man has seen good and bad QBs and some that try to pull the wool over Shannahan's eyes. I think McNabb falls in the latter. What high price are you referring to?

This offense is about urgency and not about falling asleep.

Your second point makes no sense to me. Who gives a damn about how he says it - just say it! It's obvious to me that Donovan is not taking his audition seriously.

At the time of the McNabb trade, we all thought that he was a vast improvement over Campbell. Kyle knows how his play calling should be executed. In my opinion, Donovan is not always in the game. If he can run this offense but on occasions his head and body are elsewhere, then he is not the guy to run it. He may not be hungry enough. There are NO excuses for him. He should know better. Either come in and compete or let us find the right fix. This has nothing to do with GM vs HC. It's about winning and being competitive!

I'm not sure what exactly this post is responding to?

It's clear you do not bother to distinguish between act of benchings, which are easily justifiable here, and the stupid leaks/explanations to the press such as him welcoming McNabb back as only a backup next season, which other experienced coaches don't leak out into the public. The media is going to spout nonsense, but Shanahan added his own fuel to the fire because he couldn't keep it to a terse "no comment" or a bit of generic cookie cutter praise such "they all just fought their guts out" and humiliated his quarterback while Andy Reid did not. The benching is not the big deal, it's the airing of dirty laundry to the media.

Your first point is negated by the fact that it doesn't matter how he handled it. Maybe it was said as a pay back for the way Donovan has played. I, along with you and others, have no idea what may have been said in private conversations between the two of them. After all, the man has seen good and bad QBs and some that try to pull the wool over Shannahan's eyes. I think McNabb falls in the latter. What high price are you referring to?

This offense is about urgency and not about falling asleep.

Your second point makes no sense to me. Who gives a damn about how he says it - just say it! It's obvious to me that Donovan is not taking his audition seriously.

Redskins Insider - Kyle Shanahan: Donovan McNabb 'said he didn't say any of that' (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/donovan-mcnabb/kyle-shanahan-donovan-mcnabb-s.html?wprss=redskinsinsider)

Head coaches and the teams they coach need one voice to make the calls that previous coaches lost their jobs because they went along with business as usual.

Your reference about NE being a good example of knowing how to mix kind words and deeds in handling these types of situations, reminds me of players in the past who played for NE complaining that they were lied to by the HC, recently, Randy Moss.
Belichick doesn't publicly humiliate his players nor does he announce his hypothetical plans for the players to the public like saying I'll welcome player X back as a backup. The latter would weaken his leverage in negotiations with other teams for trades. They may feel bad that he let them go too soon and that they still could have contributed to the Pats success, but that's it. Just business.

I'm not sure what exactly this post is responding to?

It's clear you do not bother to distinguish between act of benchings, which are easily justifiable here, and the stupid leaks/explanations to the press such as him welcoming McNabb back as only a backup next season, which other experienced coaches don't leak out into the public. The media is going to spout nonsense, but Shanahan added his own fuel to the fire because he couldn't keep it to a terse "no comment" or a bit of generic cookie cutter praise such "they all just fought their guts out" and humiliated his quarterback while Andy Reid did not. The benching is not the big deal, it's the airing of dirty laundry to the media.


Responding again to your same theme about Mike Shannahan showing bad taste in dealing with the benching of Donovan McNabb later on in the week instead of informing him in the earlier part of the same week of Shannahan's decision to go with Rex Grossman is a mute point on your part.

He is the head coach and can say and do what he wants to say, no matter what you and press think. I was surprise like many, but I did not consider it as a disrespectful move. After all, Donovan has disrespected the Redskins by pretending to be concerned about this organization. If he cares then learn everything about the nuances about this offense to make it work.

The story is not about Andy Reid or the media or the leaks coming out of Redskins Park. It's about improving the team.

I guess Shannahan is telling McNabb to kiss his ass. If Donovan does not want to play as he was billed up to be an upgrade over Campbell then sit and run the scout team, in other words, screw you Donovan. Shannahan will deal with him when the season is over.

Who gives a flying shit about the media. The media and people like you are flaming this nonsense. How do you think Sonny Jurgensen felt when he was benched? Or Vince Young? It does not matter who rides the pine but someone has to.

I don't mind the my way or the highway approach. Shanahan's nothing if not decisive.

McNabb has given us the deep ball this year, that's about it. He's slow in his drops away from center, DEs are usually turning the corner by the time he's at the top of his drop. He's as erratic as ever on the short throws, skipping them at the feet of receivers. He's not making his reads fast enough. And he's lost quite a bit of mobility.

I see why Andy Reid didn't mind trading him within the division.

I don't fault Shanahan for this decision whatsoever, and could care less how McNabb feels about it. What sucks is that QB guru Shanahan couldn't see that McNabb was done BEFORE making the trade for him.

wcnabb is not done he just is not as good as he was sucks for us