McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...

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GusFrerotte
12-24-2010, 03:54 PM
I don't expect the Shanny to be here on Jan 1 2013. The off the field developments have been a total joke, and the on field developments aren't the best, with a few nice exceptions like Armstrong. Shanny and the FO should have known DM wasn't a good fit before the trade, so the whole drama should have been avoided altogether. We got our GM, but I think we were sold a total bad bill of goods with him. Our draft sucked bad. Hopefully they have a high learning curve and 2011 will be much better, if not, my prediction about Jan 1, 2013 will be a lock.

juskins
12-24-2010, 03:56 PM
Redskins Insider - Donovan McNabb's agent blasts the Shanahans (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/donovan-mcnabb/donovan-mcnabbs-agent-blasts-t.html#more)

Mike Shanahan responds to Fletcher Smith | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/23/mike-shanahan-responds-to-fletcher-smith/)

I was surprised there wasn't a thread on this yet.

I get what Fletcher Smith is doing. And I hear what Shanahan is saying. McNabb has said all the right things, but his agent works for him. If he didn't want Smith saying those things about KS and MS, Smith wouldn't have.

The Shanahans have blundered seriously this year. My way or the highway is okay to an extent, but you have to blend that kind of style with deft management of personalities (see New England. Same attitude, no leaks, no malcontents). And in that department, we have failed. They've acted like stubborn jerks at times this year, with ego prevailing.

I was hoping the Skins were finally being run by adults. I'm still not so sure. The dysfunction this year seems just as bad or worse as in year's past.


This is football, not some popularity sport. If Donovan leaves, so what? I would rather have a coach realize his weak spots on the team and take action. Let the coach set the theme, not the players, media or political correctness.

GMScud
12-24-2010, 04:53 PM
Obviously, you are a Mike Shannahan fan. I would applaud any coach that displaces his starter because he does not feel the starter is getting the job done.

This is a game of making moves with your roster to better the team, not a game of being politically correct. If Donovan leaves at the end of this season, he will make roughly $3 Million big bucks. Please, bench me and let me move on.

Try reading a few of my posts. Thus far I'm on the fence with Shanahan, but never did I say McNabb didn't deserve to be benched. My issue is and has been all along the way Shanahan has explained his benchings, and how much we gave up to get McNabb.

And McNabb is a crybaby for letting his agent make that statement.

GMScud
12-24-2010, 04:54 PM
This is football, not some popularity sport. If Donovan leaves, so what? I would rather have a coach realize his weak spots on the team and take action. Let the coach set the theme, not the players, media or political correctness.

How does this in any way relate to my post that you quoted?

SirClintonPortis
12-24-2010, 05:17 PM
This is football, not some popularity sport. If Donovan leaves, so what? I would rather have a coach realize his weak spots on the team and take action. Let the coach set the theme, not the players, media or political correctness.

If all you care about is bettering the team, how about your dear god Mike Shanahan utterly destroying the trade value of his players? And Andy Reid got rid of McNabb without this "burning the entire bridge" ****wittery between player and coach.

And seriously, you're a guy who believes that Allen really called the shots on McNabb and Shanahan just followed along because there was "no better option"? There is ALWAYS an option to simply give up a couple years to stockpile the roster with young guys to build a core, and then pounce on a young QB when the time is right.

Allen has always been a subordinate who just makes sure they don't violate the salary cap and the like. Gruden called the shots in Tampa with regards to talent picking, and Shanahan has been calling the shots for his entire in Denver, and he doesn't play second fiddle to anyone.

Lastly, McNabb's physical skillset ( at least in the past) does appear to fit what Shanahan wants out of his QB. He wants a mobile and a big armed QB because of his frequent use of play action bootlegs and deep balls.

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And separately, thanks for correcting me on the other post.

Hamoskinz
12-24-2010, 06:00 PM
The NFL is sort of a mix of politics, hollywood, media and sports. The coaches cannot coach according to their own schemes gameplans etc... without the other parts trying to interfere with it.

If I was a coach, I would play the best players. McNabb wasn't getting it done, and I would have sat him disregard of his illustrious history with the Eagles.

If he didn't play within the scheme like tempo, feet placement, reads and all other stuff coaches look at, and the backup did those things better - I would do the same thing. F all the other BS like 'respect for a vet QB', I would want to evaluate the backup and see if he's worth more than dog poop, and apparently he is.

When a HC is afraid to rock the boat in order to improve this team, he should step down. I see alot of skins fan calling for a change in HC, I guess some people want us to go back to a team being run by players, media, fans, owner etc... - the old country club.

Hog1
12-24-2010, 06:08 PM
Or because he seems to bounce those balls to the WRs.

Well.....there's that

SirClintonPortis
12-24-2010, 06:20 PM
The NFL is sort of a mix of politics, hollywood, media and sports. The coaches cannot coach according to their own schemes gameplans etc... without the other parts trying to interfere with it.

If I was a coach, I would play the best players. McNabb wasn't getting it done, and I would have sat him disregard of his illustrious history with the Eagles.

If he didn't play within the scheme like tempo, feet placement, reads and all other stuff coaches look at, and the backup did those things better - I would do the same thing. F all the other BS like 'respect for a vet QB', I would want to evaluate the backup and see if he's worth more than dog poop, and apparently he is.

When a HC is afraid to rock the boat in order to improve this team, he should step down. I see alot of skins fan calling for a change in HC, I guess some people want us to go back to a team being run by players, media, fans, owner etc... - the old country club.

The benching itself is not the problem, it's airing out the dirty laundry such as him will to have McNabb return as a backup.
Mike Shanahan is a Jerk - CBSSports.com Message Boards (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/26608699)

Brody81
12-24-2010, 06:47 PM
I don't expect the Shanny to be here on Jan 1 2013. The off the field developments have been a total joke, and the on field developments aren't the best, with a few nice exceptions like Armstrong. Shanny and the FO should have known DM wasn't a good fit before the trade, so the whole drama should have been avoided altogether. We got our GM, but I think we were sold a total bad bill of goods with him. Our draft sucked bad. Hopefully they have a high learning curve and 2011 will be much better, if not, my prediction about Jan 1, 2013 will be a lock.

You are a total idiot!!! Comments like this make me scratch my head.. Lets start over again with a new coach, and new system every couple of years because it works so well..

SirClintonPortis
12-24-2010, 07:08 PM
You are a total idiot!!! Comments like this make me scratch my head.. Lets start over again with a new coach, and new system every couple of years because it works so well..

He is predicting something. He's not proposing something. "I expect something to be so and so" means something different from "I want something to be so and so in the future".

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