McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...

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Brody81
12-25-2010, 11:00 AM
Responding again to your same theme about Mike Shannahan showing bad taste in dealing with the benching of Donovan McNabb later on in the week instead of informing him in the earlier part of the same week of Shannahan's decision to go with Rex Grossman is a mute point on your part.

He is the head coach and can say and do what he wants to say, no matter what you and press think. I was surprise like many, but I did not consider it as a disrespectful move. After all, Donovan has disrespected the Redskins by pretending to be concerned about this organization. If he cares then learn everything about the nuances about this offense to make it work.

The story is not about Andy Reid or the media or the leaks coming out of Redskins Park. It's about improving the team.

I guess Shannahan is telling McNabb to kiss his ass. If Donovan does not want to play as he was billed up to be an upgrade over Campbell then sit and run the scout team, in other words, screw you Donovan. Shannahan will deal with him when the season is over.

Who gives a flying shit about the media. The media and people like you are flaming this nonsense. How do you think Sonny Jurgensen felt when he was benched? Or Vince Young? It does not matter who rides the pine but someone has to.

Good post.

juskins
12-25-2010, 02:07 PM
And both sides are coming out with some believable statements and not-so-believable statements, hence I cannot totally trust either account.

While I'm probably sure McNabb is displeased with the benching itself, he is at least giving the appearance that it was the way he was demoted and benched that is the main issue. IF what he claims is true, then it's unprofessional and not exactly best for the team because they should have been totally practicing with Grossman on the first practice day of the week and the head coach should have communicated to him first. IF McNabb is just making shit up, then Shanahan probably handled the situation properly and wasn't unprofessional, disrespectful, etc, and McNabb was just trying to get attention. The benching is not the object of complaint by McNabb, but rather how it was handled. If it was Zorn not informing his QB late in the week, we'd all be skewering his incompetence.




Merry Christmas, Sir Clinton Portis, and I hope you and your family received Xmas blessings.

I agree that this has been a PR nightmare, but it's done and just possibly this is how Shannahan handles these issues that displease him.

But, he is the HC and I have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Donovan has been mostly inconsistent in his 13 games and should be benched.

The issue of respect or disrespect, in my opinion, was first mentioned by some of the staff at NFL Network, former players. I just think that these people are wrong by suggesting that Shannahan wanted to single McNabb out by not showing concern for his "feelings".

Why is it that other QBs can be benched and its not considered disrespect? What is their agenda?

juskins
12-25-2010, 02:18 PM
That's a mighty big phrase, but "team identity" should suffice.
The only statement that concerns the "motivational make up" of the team is that the qb gives identity to the team. There are a couple of statements about Campbell that needs to be verfied and then the rest is about the flawed methodology of team building. I just pointed out examples in which they are still making transactions that mortgage away the future and how Snyder has been giving time to coaches ever since Spurrier. Marty was the only one who definitely did not get a fair shot.


I believe your concerns are part of this regimes finding the weaknesses at key positions. The way they handle it comes in the form of confrontation of the issues that they see as "disrespectful" to the organization. It may not be tactful but it lets a player know that they will not lie down and be taken advantage of.

First Haynesworth and now McNabb, in the latter case, Donovan cannot get away with his previous habits here in DC. I accept this punishment with a resounding "YEAH!" and hope that they take it to the limit in order to get the best team assembled as possible.

juskins
12-25-2010, 02:26 PM
Then Shanahan shouldn't have taken the vet QB in the first place and solely try to get Luck or whoever the next hot QBs are. McNabb has been dirtballing even during his time in Philly and people saw his nonchalance in the Super Bowl. Hell, he helped handed us the season sweep of the Eagles in 2008 thanks to his classic balls in the dirt and the Jamarcus Russell led Raiders did beat the McNabb led Eagles.



If they had known what they know now then you are absolutely correct.

There's always that element of "maybe a change of scenery will recoup his desire". I don't think the Skins should go QB with the first pick. We need a blue chip nose tackle and help on the OLine before we select a QB.

SBXVII
12-25-2010, 06:17 PM
I said it once and will say it again......

McNabb is a good QB, but he's older now, injury prone, can't scramble to save his life anymore, and throws dirt balls. All this I complained about last Easter Sunday when it was announced the Skins picked him up. He's a HOF no doubt, but that doesn't mean he'll solve our problems. But.... now we have him. We either coach him up on this style/scheme or trade him away.

I'd keep him if he doesn't mind being second fiddle to Grossman until he learns the scheme better but there are major issues then perhaps trading him for whatever we can get is best.

Thebigger key to McNabbs mess would be for him to address the media about what he did say and what his manager has stated. Funny how he avoids the media questions, but supposedly is on the Shanahans side. WTF?
Either admit what was said or put your manager in his place and have "him" address the media about his statements..... and apologize.

Brody81
12-25-2010, 06:39 PM
The problem with some fans around here is that they are use to destroying the foundation of the team through impatience and criticism. And an owner who cannot stay the course to see a coaches dream put into reality.[/QUOTE]

I couldn't agree more....

Longtimefan
12-25-2010, 07:09 PM
I saw and heard what Kyle Shannahan said. I personally think he (McNabb) and his agent are trying to win the day by playing up this disrespectful angle. Don't you?

He can't hack this offense. Just maybe Mike is showing compassion by making it an issue (benching) for McNabb and his agent so they can go elsewhere and talk football.

As far as I'm concerned, too much has been made of the benching of McNabb. There appears to be far too much meddling by the media as well as fans regarding a coaches' decision. He shouldn't have to explain to the media who plays and when, it's his perogative, and no further explanation should be necessary.

Donovan McNabb is not above being benched, I've seen just about every QB that has ever played the game get benched at one time or another. I thought he should have been benched long before he was.

Nomad
12-25-2010, 08:13 PM
Chad Dukes Rant On the Redskins 59-28 Loss « 106.7 The Fan – DC Sportsradio (http://1067thefandc.cbslocal.com/2010/11/16/chad-dukes-rant-on-the-redskins-59-28-loss/)

Who heard this rant, yet. Classic!

Longtimefan
12-25-2010, 08:59 PM
Chad Dukes Rant On the Redskins 59-28 Loss « 106.7 The Fan – DC Sportsradio (http://1067thefandc.cbslocal.com/2010/11/16/chad-dukes-rant-on-the-redskins-59-28-loss/)

Who heard this rant, yet. Classic!

Dukes needs to put it down. I happened to be listening to 106 when he delivered his infamous rant. He says he's been a Redskin fan for thirty one years and feel the team owes him something. Well, I've been a Redskin fan for almost twice that long, and have dumped thousand's into the organization. I saw a lot of bad long before he became a fan, back to the time when bad was worse than that. They don't owe me anything, even if they did I could never be repaid.

juskins
12-26-2010, 12:48 AM
I said it once and will say it again......

McNabb is a good QB, but he's older now, injury prone, can't scramble to save his life anymore, and throws dirt balls. All this I complained about last Easter Sunday when it was announced the Skins picked him up. He's a HOF no doubt, but that doesn't mean he'll solve our problems. But.... now we have him. We either coach him up on this style/scheme or trade him away.

I'd keep him if he doesn't mind being second fiddle to Grossman until he learns the scheme better but there are major issues then perhaps trading him for whatever we can get is best.

Thebigger key to McNabbs mess would be for him to address the media about what he did say and what his manager has stated. Funny how he avoids the media questions, but supposedly is on the Shanahans side. WTF?
Either admit what was said or put your manager in his place and have "him" address the media about his statements..... and apologize.



I read today that McNabb's agent is saying that he and Donovan are on the same page. Go figure.

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