Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

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MTK
12-18-2010, 07:29 PM
All Kyle needed to do was ride it out as the Texans OC with that high powered offense for a few more years and he would have wrote his own ticket to a HC job.

skinsfaninok
12-18-2010, 08:16 PM
Like I said this is all about protecting his son . I have seen better play calling in Madden 11 online

Probably me bcuz im a beast on madden..

And if u say fire mike who do u want as HC? Haven't we done this enough people????!!!

Bushead
12-18-2010, 08:46 PM
I have always been in the camp that says it is the lack of sufficient talent on the 2010 Redskins that has produced the "no playoffs status" this year. Coaches are not magicians; they are not miracle-workers.

Coaches - - particularly the good ones - - can look at their preferred "systems" and "schemes" when those systems/schemes are not working and make adaptations that better fit the talent shortage they are working with.

It is that kind of adaptation that I have not seen a whole lot of this year. And one thing that concerns me is the "my way or the highway" approach that seems to have taken root at Redskins Park. Yes, the coach has to be in charge and yes he has to be the leader. But there are leadership styles that include other forms of communication than "Do it, dammit!"

I do NOT want to see Mike Shanahan fired nor do I want to see him resign from his job. I would like for him to take a bit more of the blame/responsibility for the results of the 2010 season because there are things that are his fault (particularly since the consensus here is that he is the MOFO in charge of all football matters) such as:


1. You had to see on film that the OL in 2009 stunk in spades. You made a couple of moves to improve it - - drafting Williams, changing out Dockery, acquiring J. Brown/A. Hicks. Other than Trent Williams, it ain't all that much better. That is on Shanahan.


2. You had to notice from your film study that the WR corps on the 2009 team was "deficient". You made some moves to try to improve it - - J. Galloway, R. Williams, Armstrong. Out of all that, you have a marginal #3 WR in Armstrong and not much else. That is on Shanahan.


So, when might he admit that it was his mistakes and his misjudgments that failed to improve the team significantly in those areas. Those things were not Donovan McNabb's fault; they were not Albert Haynesworth's fault, they were not anyone's fault except for the guy who did not bring in enough raw talent to make sigmificant improvements to those units.

And if Danny Boy isn't making decisions anymore and Bruce Allen is making his contributions on the fiscal responsibility front, the number of "suspects" is narrow enough that we need not hire Sherlock Holmes to crack the case.

There is no way, in one season, anyone was going to fix all the holes, including OL, RB, WR, QB (and that's offense alone!). He had to replace 4 offensive lineman. That is no easy task.

GTripp0012
12-18-2010, 08:47 PM
All Kyle needed to do was ride it out as the Texans OC with that high powered offense for a few more years and he would have wrote his own ticket to a HC job.Like Josh McDaniels did. McDaniels got fired (probably prematurely) for a number of things he did that were unprofessional and created a losing culture. I don't think Kyle Shanahan has done anything unprofessional while he's been here, and sure his offense might work, but if Gary Kubiak is available and wants to coordinate Mike Shanahan's offense and we don't go after him because the role of OC on this team is already filled by Kyle, how committed to winning is this team?

Kyle Shanahan would land on his feet and would go on to a pretty nice coaching career if he got fired, but if Mike Shanahan has the guts to tell Donovan McNabb that he's just not good enough for his offense, but doesn't have the guts to tell his son that he has someone better to run his offense...well, that's why you don't hire your offspring, at least before you're established at your current job.

4mrusmc
12-18-2010, 08:55 PM
The sad thing is that this season feels so much like last year with the team seemingly self destructing. Us fans deserve so much better than what we have been getting.

It has taken me until about 3 weeks now to come to realize that this is all Dan Snyder's doing. He maybe a great buisness man in the coorperate world, but the vision and the buisness model he has for our Redskins is SHIT!

I highly encourage all of the fans that will attend the last few games at FedEx this year, to boo the piss out them every chance they get. Dan S. needs to hear the boos echo throughout the stadium. Boo so much that the talking heads on national tv make regular comments about it.

Dan S. you have made this once proud franchise your toliet, and us fans are fed the F up about it! R U in? F you Dan and EVERTHING about this sorry ass team!

Bucket
12-18-2010, 11:48 PM
I dont know why everyone is hating on Rex Grossman. Yeah, the guy did poorly for a couple year in Chicago, but inmy opinion the Chicago Bears were worse off on the offensive side of the football then we are now back then.

Mcnabb has played BELOW Average this year. He has missed several WR's. Underthrown several more. Anthony Armstrong should have atleast 2-3 more TD's this year. Moss was wide open last week in the endzone waiting for the pass, and this has happen week in, an week out. If this was J.C. everyone would be screaming for the backup, or if it was Brunell a few years ago. Everyone would be sceremaing for the backup.

Mcnabb just doesn't fit this offense. I would think it would take him 3-4 years to learn it. He can't even run the WHOLE offense yet. I mean we always talk about how predictable we are on offense. Alot of it has to do with not being able to run half the playbook.

I'm excited to see what Grossman can do. Maybe him earning his roster spot will put some fire under him, and make him perform at a top level. I mean he can't get any worse then Mcnabb has been this year.

I don't really want to hear about the "talent" level we have. There has been several times like in Philly pt. 1. Where we ran the ball for over 120 yards, but Mcnabb still couldn't find open WR's down the field, and it wasn't because they were not open. Its because he didn't even find them.

The week before last it was 3rd and 5, and Armstrong right a flat pattern out of a trips set, and was wide open for atleast 15 yards in front of him, and Mcnabb had plenty of time but threw it into double coverage LOW to Cooley. 70% of the time Mcnabb is throwing low to our WR's so they never get any yards after the catch. They ahve to catch it off the ground like Moss's catch last week that was ruled incomplete because it was 2 yards behind him and low.. I mean.. That's a 15 yard pass to and OPEN WR.

I'm excited about tomorrow. I wanna see what Rex can do. If anything it makes us younger at the QB position, and if he does well it could give us some stability for a change.

SkinzWin
12-18-2010, 11:51 PM
The Redskins have a lot of problems.
1. We have a revolving coaching door.
2. We have a terrible offensive live.
3. We have a terrible defensive scheme to match the players we currently have.
4. We have no depth at virtually all positions.
5. We have an old team. THE OLDEST TEAM. Maybe ever.
6. We have some diva head case players that cause problems.
7. We have virtually no picks in every draft because of Cerrato.
8. We had Vinny Cerrato.
9. Vinny Cerrato used to make personnel decisions.
10. Dan Snyder.

Here is how I see it. I say this all the time on here. Winning cures all ills. We have not had a winning culture in DC for a long time. We have an owner with good intensions and a terrible track record. We had Vinny making decisions with an even worse track record who left our future in shambles with aging rental veterans and no draft picks.

People are so polarizing in these posts. Its either Shanny's fault b/c of his inability to relate to players and make stupid decisions, or its the fault of players. Well, last I checked, teams are winners or losers not by one person, but by all people together. Owner, front office, coach, staff, players, everyone. We haven't had a real good track record with any of that lately.

Has Shanny made some stupid moves? Yes. Do a lot of our players suck? Yes. Do we need to rebuild and do things a different way? I think so, and I think progress is being made. My point is, Rome wasn't built in a day. This shit that we are in took a long time to cook up and its going to take a long time to get out of. Yes Shanny has made some stupid decisions but I think he has been laying it out there the way you have to in order to get something good to come out of a team.

Zornification of a team is not going to work. That has been proven. People that are saying Shanny is going to get fired, that he isn't good for the team, are stupid. No he hasn't been perfect, but its going to take many years and a hard nosed approach to getting this ship turned around and headed in the right direction. I for one have been saying for awhile we need to take the Bucs approach to blowing up this team, dropping all the dead weight veterans and infusing the team with free agent and drafted youth.

The bottom line is what we have been doing has not been working and I would be a much happier fan sitting through several years of losing football with a youthful team with upside and the possibility to get better than the old, falling apart mess we have been witnessing for so long.

skinsfaninok
12-18-2010, 11:53 PM
The Redskins have a lot of problems.
1. We have a revolving coaching door.
2. We have a terrible offensive live.
3. We have a terrible defensive scheme to match the players we currently have.
4. We have no depth at virtually all positions.
5. We have an old team. THE OLDEST TEAM. Maybe ever.
6. We have some diva head case players that cause problems.
7. We have virtually no picks in every draft because of Cerrato.
8. We had Vinny Cerrato.
9. Vinny Cerrato used to make personnel decisions.
10. Dan Snyder.

Here is how I see it. I say this all the time on here. Winning cures all ills. We have not had a winning culture in DC for a long time. We have an owner with good intensions and a terrible track record. We had Vinny making decisions with an even worse track record who left our future in shambles with aging rental veterans and no draft picks.

People are so polarizing in these posts. Its either Shanny's fault b/c of his inability to relate to players and make stupid decisions, or its the fault of players. Well, last I checked, teams are winners or losers not by one person, but by all people together. Owner, front office, coach, staff, players, everyone. We haven't had a real good track record with any of that lately.

Has Shanny made some stupid moves? Yes. Do a lot of our players suck? Yes. Do we need to rebuild and do things a different way? I think so, and I think progress is being made. My point is, Rome wasn't built in a day. This shit that we are in took a long time to cook up and its going to take a long time to get out of. Yes Shanny has made some stupid decisions but I think he has been laying it out there the way you have to in order to get something good to come out of a team.

Zornification of a team is not going to work. That has been proven. People that are saying Shanny is going to get fired, that he isn't good for the team, are stupid. No he hasn't been perfect, but its going to take many years and a hard nosed approach to getting this ship turned around and headed in the right direction. I for one have been saying for awhile we need to take the Bucs approach to blowing up this team, dropping all the dead weight veterans and infusing the team with free agent and drafted youth.

The bottom line is what we have been doing has not been working and I would be a much happier fan sitting through several years of losing football with a youthful team with upside and the possibility to get better than the old, falling apart mess we have been witnessing.


The Raiders of the early 2000's would disagree

SkinzWin
12-18-2010, 11:56 PM
The Raiders of the early 2000's would disagree

We don't have the Al Davis voodoo magic. And this ain't yo momma's early 2000's football league anymore. It's 2010. If it was going to work like it did for the Raiders, it would have already happened.

skinsfaninok
12-19-2010, 12:02 AM
We don't have the Al Davis voodoo magic. And this ain't yo momma's early 2000's football league anymore. It's 2010. If it was going to work like it did for the Raiders, it would have already happened.

Oh I agree that we are too old to win but I was saying the Raiders may have been older than this team back then lol.

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