Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

Very misleading statistic.

He hit a lot of big plays, gotta at least give him credit for that, but he's been too much of an all or nothing QB. Lack of consistency did him in.

Oh well -- the locker room can lose MS all they want. If that's the case, then they'll be gone lickety-split.

If you ask me, it's about damn time this locker room was told who's boss.

yeah thats the spirit tell the entire team they all ****ing suck! mike and kyle are all we need!!!!! :/

it's not about the players running the team it's about a coexistance, you have to have a good coach player relationship to win. if a player doesn't trust the coach why the hell would he play as hard as he can for him. the coaches have to gain the trust of the locker room and have the players rally behind them.

He hit a lot of big plays, gotta at least give him credit for that, but he's been too much of an all or nothing QB. Lack of consistency did him in.The "consistent" element/engine of the passing offense has exclusively belonged to Santana Moss this year. Not surprising, the offense has gone as Moss has. When he's catching the ball, it's productive. When he goes away, there's no plan B. It's an all or nothing down the field throw to Armstrong or a TE.

Carolina, Arizona, Minnesota, San Francisco, and Seattle are the teams that don't have a quarterback or future quarterback on their roster right now.

Washington, Miami, Tennessee, Cincinnati, and maybe Buffalo are the teams that have a starting caliber QB, but want a new one for whatever reason.

Then the "available" veterans next year will include Kyle Orton, Vince Young, Donovan McNabb, Chad Henne, Carson Palmer, and maybe Ryan Fitzpatrick, with Kevin Kolb likely being unavailable in Philadelphia.

I would rank the six QBs as follows:

1. Young
2. Henne
3. McNabb
4. Palmer
5. Orton
6. Fitzpatrick

But I think all six are capable NFL starters. Would you be interested in any of them as a short term solution?

Henne and Palmer are NOT ahead of Orton imo, maybe not even Fitzpatrick

yeah thats the spirit tell the entire team they all ****ing suck! mike and kyle are all we need!!!!! :/

it's not about the players running the team it's about a coexistance, you have to have a good coach player relationship to win. if a player doesn't trust the coach why the hell would he play as hard as he can for him. the coaches have to gain the trust of the locker room and have the players rally behind them.


Shanahan is benching someone who hasn't performed well.

Oh! The horror!

And now the crybabies who have run the asylum for years are whining about it? As someone correctly pointed out earlier in the thread, half the locker room needs to be shitcanned anyway. Shanahan can build up all the "trust" he wants, but if the guys can't play -- which this season and last season have clearly shown -- then what good is it?

Well as for the "losing" the locker room...I don't really care because I would like to "lose" about half of that locker room. I am still behind Shanny and him and Allen will be here longer then most of the players currently on the team.

Amen brother. Preach on.

Chad Henne: Career Stats at NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/players/ChadHenne/careerstats?id=HEN507580)

Carson Palmer: Career Stats at NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/players/CarsonPalmer/careerstats?id=PAL249055)

Kyle Orton: Career Stats at NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/players/KyleOrton/careerstats?id=ORT716150)

Vince Young: Career Stats at NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/players/VinceYoung/careerstats?id=YOU617196)

Ryan Fitzpatrick: Career Stats at NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/players/RyanFitzpatrick/careerstats?id=FIT792915)

Henne has more INTs than TDs in his 2 seasons as a starter, NOT GOOD.

Orton has been pretty good for 3 straight seasons now.

Palmer is done

VY is a Drama Queen and can't handle the heat.

Fitz is having a Miracle season IMO

A lot of these guys won't be back anyway, and deep down they have to know that DM basically played his way out of the job.

I think this talk of MS losing the locker room is a bit overblown.

Henne has more INTs than TDs in his 2 seasons as a starter, NOT GOOD.

Orton has been pretty good for 3 straight seasons now.

Palmer is done

VY is a Drama Queen and can't handle the heat.

Fitz is having a Miracle season IMO

Bronco's would be stupid to let Orton go. I agree on Palmer, just goes to show you that the QB is exponentially more important than the receivers. If you thought the McNabb benching was bad wait till Shanny benches Young. Fitzpatrick plays in a system that tends to inflate a QB's numbers. Just ask Tyler Thigpen when he played for Gailey in KC.

Bronco's would be stupid to let Orton go. I agree on Palmer, just goes to show you that the QB is exponentially more important than the receivers. If you thought the McNabb benching was bad wait till Shanny benches Young. Fitzpatrick plays in a system that tends to inflate a QB's numbers. Just ask Tyler Thigpen when he played for Gailey in KC.


I would Love to get Orton, IDK why other folks on here haven't said the same thing, hes tall has a good arm and is accurate.. Please NO Vince Young in WSH!!! As for Denver, they do have Tebow and Quinn.. Don't be shocked if Orton walks this offseason. I think his overall record as a starter is something like 29-19 or something like that, I remember seeing that stat watching a Denver game this season.