Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

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mlmdub130
12-17-2010, 07:45 PM
They keep saying on the news how Shanahan wasn't happy with how McNabb had picked up his offense which is obviously true and I'm sure he could have done better but it just seems to me that Shanahan seems a little to set in his ways as far as scheme's go. I mean if it takes nothing short of a 9 time pro bowler, all decade QB, maybe the greatest passer of all time to fully grasp your system, maybe you need to dumb it down a little so that your every day, run of the mill 6 time pro bowler can figure it out and perform. And I don't care which defense we run, a 4-3, a 3-4, each can be just as effective but why would you choose the one that then needs an entire personnel change. Plenty of teams win super bowls in a 4-3. Just kind of seems like common sense. It would be a lot easier to rebuild an offense with an already strong defense and vice versus. Just a thought.

it does doesn't it

12thMan
12-17-2010, 07:46 PM
Are you serious? McNabb is 2nd in the NFC in passing yards. How you can say that he's played like sh*t? The entire team has played like sh*t, there's nothing a QB can do when there's a severe lacking in playmakers.

I can't imagine someone telling a RB, you're having a terrible year, despite him being second in the NFC rushing. Telling a LB he sucks, despite him being second in the NFC in tackles, or telling a passrusher he sucks despite him being # 2 in the NFC in sacks. This is a team game, Shannahan is looking for a scapegoat, looks like that mission is accomplished.

Very misleading statistic.

Hog1
12-17-2010, 07:49 PM
Are you serious? McNabb is 2nd in the NFC in passing yards. How you can say that he's played like sh*t? The entire team has played like sh*t, there's nothing a QB can do when there's a severe lacking in playmakers.

I can't imagine someone telling a RB, you're having a terrible year, despite him being second in the NFC rushing. Telling a LB he sucks, despite him being second in the NFC in tackles, or telling a passrusher he sucks despite him being # 2 in the NFC in sacks. This is a team game, Shannahan is looking for a scapegoat, looks like that mission is accomplished.

In your analysis did you want to include the:
58% Completion Percentage
14 TD
15 INT
77% QB rating
???

Longtimefan
12-17-2010, 07:50 PM
Grossman's reaction to having the opportunity to start on Sunday.

CSNwashington.com: Washington Redskins Video (http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/redskinsvideo)

Dirtbag59
12-17-2010, 07:51 PM
I'd rather trade up somehow for Luck, or take Newton... I do NOT want Locker, I know that much.

Newton is basically Tim Tebow 2.0, albeit Tebow with better throwing mechanics, and no one in position to draft Luck will be stupid enough to let another team trade up to select him. Luck is easily the best QB prospect to come along in the past decade. Weather or not he becomes the best QB in the next decade remains to be seen but as a prospect very few players even come close.

I do understand your reservations about Locker though. I myself have mixed emotions and feel that Mallet would probably be the safer pick. If anything Mallet reminds me a lot of Schuab. Locker on the other hand doesn't really have a comparable NFL counterpart seeing as how I can't think of anyone with a strong arm and amazing straight line speed while lacking in agility.


In your analysis did you want to include the:
58% Completion Percentage
14 TD
15 INT
77% QB rating
???

To be fair two of those INT's came on end of first half Hail Mary passes.

Fck all the other QBs...I want Kellen Moore! I would seriously draft him #1 overall! And if we are talking future QB selection then I'd like to have Aaron Murray for Georgia.

Kellen Moore will be lucky to be a fifth round pick in 2012. It's best to think of him like you would Ken Dorsey, Jason White, Colt Brenan, or Chris Weinke. He's a great college QB but any team that relied on him to be their franchise QB would likely find themselves drafting early and often.

GTripp0012
12-17-2010, 07:55 PM
Carolina, Arizona, Minnesota, San Francisco, and Seattle are the teams that don't have a quarterback or future quarterback on their roster right now.

Washington, Miami, Tennessee, Cincinnati, and maybe Buffalo are the teams that have a starting caliber QB, but want a new one for whatever reason.

Then the "available" veterans next year will include Kyle Orton, Vince Young, Donovan McNabb, Chad Henne, Carson Palmer, and maybe Ryan Fitzpatrick, with Kevin Kolb likely being unavailable in Philadelphia.

I would rank the six QBs as follows:

1. Young
2. Henne
3. McNabb
4. Palmer
5. Orton
6. Fitzpatrick

But I think all six are capable NFL starters. Would you be interested in any of them as a short term solution?

mlmdub130
12-17-2010, 07:57 PM
anyone catch the local nbc news tonight, i love jim vance, that dude is the best. lindsay said you have to start from the bottom up, and vance responded or the top down and lindsay looked scared for her life(she was at redksin park). gotta love it

Beemnseven
12-17-2010, 07:59 PM
"I’m told locker room is divided and guys are extremely upset," Johnson wrote.


Oh yeah? Well tough effing sh*t. The locker room doesn't run the show anymore.

GTripp0012
12-17-2010, 08:00 PM
I do understand your reservations about Locker though. I myself have mixed emotions and feel that Mallet would probably be the safer pick. If anything Mallet reminds me a lot of Schuab. Locker on the other hand doesn't really have a comparable NFL counterpart seeing as how I can't think of anyone with a strong arm and amazing straight line speed while lacking in agility..I don't think the Mallett/Locker thing is about safe/unsafe. I think you know exactly what you are getting in Jake Locker based on what he did in college. For a team whose ultimate aspiration is to some day be .500, well, Locker just proved he can do that. Disaster games and all.

You know what, check this out:

Jay Cutler Statistics | College Football at Sports-Reference.com (http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jay-cutler-1.html)

Jake Locker Statistics | College Football at Sports-Reference.com (http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jake-locker-1.html)

Those are probably the two most similar draft prospects in history. One does appear to be clearly better than the other, but those were very similar supporting casts in very similar environments.

And, you know, Mike Shanahan and such.

Beemnseven
12-17-2010, 08:02 PM
Between the week 8 benching in Detroit, the piss poor clock management, the Haynesworth ordeal, and now this, I'd say they already look like idiots. And according to Kelli Johnson, MS has lost the locker room.

Sweet. Our latest "savior" only took 13 weeks to lose the team.
I'm beside myself right now. This is just the cherry on top of a blunder-filled season.

Oh well -- the locker room can lose MS all they want. If that's the case, then they'll be gone lickety-split.

If you ask me, it's about damn time this locker room was told who's boss.

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