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d151b 12-07-2004, 02:20 PM well, norm hitchcus of 1310 the ticket, out of dallas, discussed the bad calls going the cowboys way this morning. and he's a DALLAS radio announcer. he said this morning and i quote "i just spoke with the nfl and they said the keyshawn catch was not a catch or a touchdown. the cowboys also got two gifts on their other MNF game against the redskins, which ultimately cost them the game. just think if the cowboys weren't given that game against the skins, then we're talking about the redskins being in the playoff hunt not the cowboys." that's a DALLAS radio broadcaster folks....
You can listen online @ www.theticket.com
manicd 12-07-2004, 02:29 PM well, norm hitchcus of 1310 the ticket, out of dallas, discussed the bad calls going the cowboys way this morning. and he's a DALLAS radio announcer. he said this morning and i quote "i just spoke with the nfl and they said the keyshawn catch was not a catch or a touchdown. the cowboys also got two gifts on their other MNF game against the redskins, which ultimately cost them the game. just think if the cowboys weren't given that game against the skins, then we're talking about the redskins being in the playoff hunt not the cowboys." that's a DALLAS radio broadcaster folks....
You can listen online @ www.theticket.com
I couldn't bring myself to watch that game. But that announcer's right. If he had that win, playoffs would not be that crazy of an idea. Now we have to win out. And let's face it, the great teams can have a few calls and pull out a win, so we aren't that good. Still though, calls like that should bring some type of repurcussion to the refs so a precedent is set.
cpayne5 12-07-2004, 02:34 PM They have got to pay the refs more to get better results. The refs get paid diddly compared to the players, owners, GMs, commish, cheerleaders (ok, maybe not them), etc. They produce the results of underpaid scrubs (which is what they are right now).
League-wide the officiating stinks.
Did anyone else see the debacle in the Jets game last weekend?
The refs called a phantom intentional grounding on Carr, then shortly after marked off a 15 yard penalty only 10 yards, for a few minutes there the refs were absolute clowns.
AnonEmouse 12-07-2004, 03:07 PM I think there was one in the Steelers game - defender got called for illegal contact and actually whiffed on the play! Missed the man completely. Must have been and 'intending to make illegal contact' penalty... :o
cpayne5 12-07-2004, 03:14 PM "We haven't called a penalty in a while so, illegal use of gravity, defense. 23 yard penalty, automatic 4th down."
RedskinRat 12-07-2004, 03:48 PM "We haven't called a penalty in a while so, illegal use of gravity, defense. 23 yard penalty, automatic 4th down."
:rofl:
jbcjr14 12-07-2004, 03:51 PM Some of the "elite" refs like the guy with the cannon arms (Ed Hockeley) gets paid six figures to fly around the country and ref a sport he probably sucked at and couldn't play but loves so dearly. These guys love to ref, money isn't the issue, its just they are all Cowboy fans!!! J/K.
I do think its more than a $ issue.
jbcjr14 12-07-2004, 03:53 PM "We haven't called a penalty in a while so, illegal use of gravity, defense. 23 yard penalty, automatic 4th down."
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FRPLG 12-07-2004, 04:19 PM I don't think it is really a money issue. The issue is the manner in which the refs are managed and employed in general.. This job is a PART TIME FREAKING JOB for these guys. They get paid pretty good to have a PART TIME FREAKING JOB.
If you hadn't noticed the key phrase is PART TIME. I won't sit here and tell you that football is the most important thing in the world but for the owners, coaches, players this is a multi million dollar venture. It is absolutly ridiculous to have employees who are such a key component of the succes of the product being PART TIME FREAKING employees. The NFL has a lot of rules. A lot. More than college. And many of the rules have nuances that take practice to master officiating. The solution is to make referees full time employees from August to February exclusively. Deceminate them during training camp to practice officiating with the teams they will be officiating and FIRE THEM when they make egregious errors.
There wil always be errors but some errors are just plain stupid. I think the replay system should be changed to the old system and anytime a play is obviously wrong then the upstairs booth over rules the on field officials. I don't udnerstand why this was abandoned in the first place. If the damn on field guys are too proud to have some upstairs official ruling over them then fire their f*%&ing asses. The replay boothes have DAMN REPLAYS THAT SHOW WHEN THE OFFICLAS ARE WRONG. WHY THE HELL AREN'T THESE REPLAYS USED TO MAKE THINSG RIGHT WHEN THEY CAN BE USED???? It is asanine.
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